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Why we have never hired an MBA

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Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Wikipedia, Linux was developed around his second year in university. That would suggest that he did not have a degree during its development and had a formal education, at that time, roughly equivalent to the average university dropout. I think that still supports the parent's claim, even if it is a little misleading as written.

Linux 0.0.1 was not a sophisticated piece of code.

While I'm sure that is true, I'm sure he also learned a lot of lessons from writing that code, which goes against the idea suggested earlier that such things are only learned in the interest of formality. What it really highlights, though, is that anyone can jump in and start writing an OS (or whatever else you want to learn about). You don't need a degree to do that and people without them do.

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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> the fundamental rule of startups: ideas & strategies are worthless, execution is everything.

Oh boy... I agree with the whole "idea-guys are hacks" thing but this phrasing is no less alarming. Don't worry about the product, we can always jut pivot!

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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I wouldn't consider someone with an MBA a black mark, but the author hits the nail on the head -- an early stage startup needs someone who can execute, not just come up with ideas. If that person with the MBA has the skills and more importantly the desire to get in an get their hands dirty executing on their own ideas, then great! But from my experience, most MBAs want to come up with the ideas and want others to exe…

It's not that I won't look at any MBA but that when I do I'm watching out for particular things. When nine out of ten apps that display a particular attribute share or lack another common attribute, that seems like a sensible response.

Like you say, the key is the ability and desire to execute.

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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Hi Matt, You just haven't found the right MBA :) Some quick background: I'm attending school part-time for my MBA (Richard Ivey, case-based). I've also been with a successful YC startup from the the ground floor as a technical hire, and am currently the co-founder of a very early stage startup. Your article raises some really good points - most of which I agree with completely. Execution is key, and becoming a PM at…

A fellow Ivey! I did my HBA however.

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

#35
post #20
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"In the same way being an hobbyist programmer will never give you the same skill set than a CS degree." Never? Despite the countless examples, including Torvalds and Carmack? I really disagree on that.

Torvalds has a masters in CS. "Never" is a strong word, but the rest of the paragraph you're harpooning makes a different point than the one you're refuting.

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Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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I haven't got an MBA but many close friends do - and none of them fit Matt's views. I repeat, none. Having an MBA is not a black and white scenario, and that same "profile" can apply to anyone with no MBA. Still, let the facts do the talking, founders/executers with MBAs:

- Chris Dixon (Hunch, among others)

- Jeff Skoll (eBay)

- Trip Hawkins (Electronic Arts)

- Vinod Khosla, Scott McNealy(Sun Microsystems)

- Gery Kremen (Match.com)

- Alexandra Wilson and Alexis Maybank (Gilt Groupe)

- Jeff Fluhr (Stubhub)

- Miriam Naficy (Minted, Eve.com)

- Victoria Ransom and Alain Chuard (Wildfire)

- Mike Cassidy (Stylus Innovation, Direct Hit, Xfire, and Ruba)

- Inaki Berenguer (Pixable)

- Neil Blumenthal, Andrew Hunt, Jeffrey Raider, David Gilboa (Warby Parker)

- Cyrus Massoumi (ZocDoc)

- Jessica Flannery (Kiva.org)

The list can go on...

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

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post #2

It's kind of ridiculous that HN and the whole startup community has a vendetta against MBAs. Seeing it as a blackmark? You are quick to judge an MBA based on their education. Maybe if people working in startups weren't such elitists and thinking you don't need business skills to run a startup, you wouldn't have so many fail.

I have no vendetta. It is simple pattern matching:

I receive lots of applications every day. When nine out of ten that share one common characteristic (MBA), share another (no understanding of how they could add value in an early stage startup), you begin to connect the dots.

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

#38
post #36

I haven't got an MBA but many close friends do - and none of them fit Matt's views. I repeat, none. Having an MBA is not a black and white scenario, and that same "profile" can apply to anyone with no MBA. Still, let the facts do the talking, founders/executers with MBAs: - Chris Dixon (Hunch, among others) - Jeff Skoll (eBay) - Trip Hawkins (Electronic Arts) - Vinod Khosla, Scott McNealy(Sun Microsystems) - Gery Kre…

I totally agree. As I said in the original post:

"I am not trying to argue that there is no place for MBAs, or that no MBA has a clue about startups – both of those are demonstrably untrue. Also having an MBA itself is clearly not the problem."

Re: Why we have never hired an MBA

#39
post #26

One of the best hires I've ever made is a classic finance MBA -- top tier investment bank analyst program out of undergrad, HBS, private equity. The key was that: 1) He was referred to my startup by someone in our network, so he had at least a basic understanding of how our company worked. 2) He offered to come in as an intern just to get his foot in the door, and was extremely humble about his value to the company;…

Do you think the MBA and banking was a boost, or a five year delay in getting his career going?

What's the big rush?
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