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Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by raducu »

aethrum wrote: post #108
raducu wrote: post #65

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>The older I get the more sensitive to a single poor night's sleep I become. Back when I was 20 I had a drinking problem. One time I drank so much that I passed out sitting at a table. Woke up with friends having stripped my clothes and washed them. I woke up at 9AM, feeling 100% sober, just anxious about my 20 missed calls from my mom. I got a bit drunk at about 33 and next day I thought I was dying. That's how I le…

do you exercise?

No, I don't. I know I should.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by raducu »

tboughen wrote: post #109
raducu wrote: post #65

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>The older I get the more sensitive to a single poor night's sleep I become. Back when I was 20 I had a drinking problem. One time I drank so much that I passed out sitting at a table. Woke up with friends having stripped my clothes and washed them. I woke up at 9AM, feeling 100% sober, just anxious about my 20 missed calls from my mom. I got a bit drunk at about 33 and next day I thought I was dying. That's how I le…

I’m 41 and my body is nicer to be in than when I was 25. Like you, I have much less youthful buffer that shrugs off poor sleep or overindulgence, but I have much more knowledge and much better habits. Daily habits: better nutrition (based on Bryan Johnson’s super veggie and nutty pudding), stretching, weak points warmup, proper oral hygiene, regular bedtime Weekly habits: 4x gym, 3x run, 2x weighted walk I have used…

Thanks, that's inspiring, I know I'm at the point that I should do these changes like yesterday!

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by raducu »

alternatex wrote: post #117
tboughen wrote: post #109

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I’m 41 and my body is nicer to be in than when I was 25. Like you, I have much less youthful buffer that shrugs off poor sleep or overindulgence, but I have much more knowledge and much better habits. Daily habits: better nutrition (based on Bryan Johnson’s super veggie and nutty pudding), stretching, weak points warmup, proper oral hygiene, regular bedtime Weekly habits: 4x gym, 3x run, 2x weighted walk I have used…

Reminder for anyone that doesn't know better: having good sleep is dependent on a few minor lifestyle adjustments. Like avoiding heavy (or any outside of fruit and vegetable) meals and exercise a few hours before going to bed. And avoiding caffeine after noon. You don't need to be a health champion to have good sleep.

> dependent on a few minor lifestyle adjustments

Only if you don't have psychological issues, then none of that really works.

I've done all the sleep hygiene and it does help a bit, but sleep polysomnogram shows my sleep architecture is toast + loads of microawakenings (and no sleep apneea).

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

kakacik wrote: post #183
exsss wrote: post #94

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Same for me and I just got the one. It's so incredibly hard, I was not ready for it at all.

Somehow, neither schools nor parents prepared us in any meaningful way for the hardest challenges in our lives. School curriculums are next to useless beyond basic reading/writing/counts. Where is self sufficiency, team work, communication, taxes, relationships, understanding various addictions, understanding other people, good nutrition, savings and retirement, and of course having and raising kids? I get they dont…

I would much rather have school teach the more "rigid" of knowledge, and society teach the more fluid.

By having schools teach the very essence of society, you run the risk of it being hijacked by various ideologues or power hungry people. e.g. the whole sex ed debate in the US.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

gobdovan wrote: post #166
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #72

I think a lot of it has to do with mental status, which can be concluded with one sentence -- "Are you happy with your life, and if not do you have a clear path to reach that?". People who say no probably has a lot of trouble to get fit, get enough sleep -- sometimes NOT because they do not have the resources, but because they are not happy. They hate life, so why makes it better? I have observed this in myself so I…

Or it could simply be that you perceive your life as more happy and can find clearer goals when you exercise, eat healthier food and get good sleep, which is overwhelmingly the case and pretty obvious once you once you stop treating willpower as if it can magically stand in for unmet physiological needs.

For me there is definitely a blocking factor, like awaiting for a click, before I can move into exercises and healthier food and such. Maybe it is a rare case and I do wish it is the other way around.

Actually now that I think about it, "The Soul of the New Machine" / "Showstopper" both describe this kind of mental (although I'm far from a good engineer) when engineers are done with a project, they get frustrated during the waiting period between two projects. This is pretty similar to what I felt -- whenever I finished a project, I tried to find new projects to work on immediately, not want to lose the momentum, but frustration quickly mounts among 1) I was burnt out temporarily but could not take a break, and 2) It's hard to find projects suitable for my level. It usually took a few months for this frustration to pass, which is frustrating by itself.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

doright wrote: post #110
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #72

I think a lot of it has to do with mental status, which can be concluded with one sentence -- "Are you happy with your life, and if not do you have a clear path to reach that?". People who say no probably has a lot of trouble to get fit, get enough sleep -- sometimes NOT because they do not have the resources, but because they are not happy. They hate life, so why makes it better? I have observed this in myself so I…

It really is. Exercise and eating well was an activity I became capable of participating in as a result of the correct therapy and dramatically boosted its effects, not something I could persist at when already depressed. When people claim the contrary it's feels more of a test to see if you can be perceived as responsible enough for your own actions to be worth helping. An individualistic mindset like that isn't ver…

Have you been to therapy? What did it look like? I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm not sure whether anyone could fix me when I'm fundamentally unhappy about life -- but definitely not to the point to consider suicide.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

grvdrm wrote: post #165
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #148

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> A lot of mine focuses on career things. I've got a bank of knowledge and skills that aren't easy to replicate and a career track circled around those things, but lack (I think) the passion for that career track. I think maybe you can move into a managerial position that doesn't need to do much in the trench, or become a trainer in that field. > That doesn't mean that I don't want a career or have aspirations, but t…

Maybe grit is the answer. I don’t know. I agree that to some degree momentum of any kind helps break a rabbit-hole moment. But it’s not that alone that always solve the problem. One thing I know helps. Keep talking to people Keep conversation flowing who buddies, connections, or new acquaintances. So happy to find ways to connect here too if having a sparring moment during these moments helps!

I agree. It's just a tool that may or may not be useful. I also found that getting rid of caffeine for a couple of weeks, and then take up a cup, gives a much larger boosts to the mood.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

physicles wrote: post #186
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #184

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Yep that's what I feel when I have lost my purpose. "Man shall not live by bread alone", so said Dostoevsky.

Interesting, I didn’t know Dostoevsky also made this popular (unless you’re just tongue-in-cheek ignoring the earlier source, which is the Bible)

Yes you are right, he was quoting from the Bible.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by grvdrm »

linohh wrote: post #189
grvdrm wrote: post #127

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What drove you to get the diagnosis? My wife was diagnosed within last 2 years and thinks it has changed (and helped) her come to terms with a number of behaviors. And learn how to resolve/improve. I wonder about me, too. Haven't done it. Is it the case (honest) that may we all have just a little bit anyways?

>Is it the case (honest) that may we all have just a little bit anyways? Hear me out on this, while it often may seem to be the case that it looks like everyone has it, it very well may just be that you unknowingly choose your surrounding in a way that simply everyone around you has it.

You mean all these intense type-A New Yorkers around me?!

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by thi2 »

Antibabelic wrote: post #46

> There is only one formula for healthy and refreshing sleep: Go to sleep only when you are very tired. Not earlier. Not later. Wake up naturally without an alarm clock. This is very easy to say when you're not suffering from insomnia and other sleep disorders.

Or having to work, I'm not sure my boss would understand me missing half the morning because I was free running my sleep.
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