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YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by netcoyote »

runevault wrote: post #109
savanaly wrote: post #8

>YouTube now lets you turn off Shorts No it doesn't. If you were hoping it would mean you don't see shorts when you visit the Youtube home page, that's not what this is. I just tried the thing mentioned in the article-- set my Shorts time limit to 0 minutes. What it does is make it so if you click a short from somewhere the short plays, but then if you try to swipe to the next one it hits you with the "You reached yo…

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

I so hate the videos YouTube shows me that I wrote a plugin to place a white box over videos called TubeGate [0], which I open-sourced [1]. It does keyword-based filtering so you can tell it to hide "sports", "politics", etc.

[0]: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tubegate/aokfpmegea...

[1]: https://github.com/webcoyote/tubegate

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by tsimionescu »

rjbwork wrote: post #117
runevault wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.

This line of argument would make sense if they did allow paying customers who don't see ads to disable these anti-features. They don't.

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by madradavid »

I am still trying to figure out why YouTube/Google is willing to die on this hill ? Surely they’ve gotten feedback or seen it in their analytics that there is a significant group of people who don’t like these “shorts”.

Them implementing this “zero minutes” thing already tells you that they have realized there is some pushback.

Why not just add an on/off toggle?

This short form , TikTok style endless scroll stuff has a junk food feeling to it , as a paying customer why can’t you just give me the option to turn this off ?

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by BingBingBap »

savanaly wrote: post #8

>YouTube now lets you turn off Shorts No it doesn't. If you were hoping it would mean you don't see shorts when you visit the Youtube home page, that's not what this is. I just tried the thing mentioned in the article-- set my Shorts time limit to 0 minutes. What it does is make it so if you click a short from somewhere the short plays, but then if you try to swipe to the next one it hits you with the "You reached yo…

Youtube would be cooked if there was an alternative that actually eorked (incentives for people uploading, spread well etc).

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by superjan »

savanaly wrote: post #8

>YouTube now lets you turn off Shorts No it doesn't. If you were hoping it would mean you don't see shorts when you visit the Youtube home page, that's not what this is. I just tried the thing mentioned in the article-- set my Shorts time limit to 0 minutes. What it does is make it so if you click a short from somewhere the short plays, but then if you try to swipe to the next one it hits you with the "You reached yo…

The nuclear option is to disallow it to store your watch history. You get only a search bar and your subscriptions.

I switched to this. It is less fun, but also less of a timewaste.

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by prartichoke »

madradavid wrote: post #123

I am still trying to figure out why YouTube/Google is willing to die on this hill ? Surely they’ve gotten feedback or seen it in their analytics that there is a significant group of people who don’t like these “shorts”. Them implementing this “zero minutes” thing already tells you that they have realized there is some pushback. Why not just add an on/off toggle? This short form , TikTok style endless scroll stuff has…

Pirates get the best service, gabe newell was right.all along. Paying for youtube premium makes no sense, I'd rather donate that 15 bucks a month to my favorite creators, while using uBlock/sponsorblock/unhook and grayjay on mobile. No shorts in my homepage, no ads ever

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by al_borland »

rjbwork wrote: post #117
runevault wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.

I’m a Premium subscriber. I don’t see ads, and YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections.

It seems like the incentive for Premium subscribers should be to keep them happy, so they keep paying, and minimize how much they watch, as they’ll be a cheaper user using less bandwidth.

Am I missing something?

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by ajkjk »

rjbwork wrote: post #117
runevault wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.

joke's on them, I have not consciously experienced a youtube advertisement in ten years

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by runlevel1 »

al_borland wrote: post #127
rjbwork wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a product where you are the user. Your attention is the product being sold to advertisers and the videos are a harvesting/production mechanism. It is not in the interests of either YT or the advertisers to allow you to opt out of features that are proven to be lucrative for eyeballs.

I’m a Premium subscriber. I don’t see ads, and YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections. It seems like the incentive for Premium subscribers should be to keep them happy, so they keep paying, and minimize how much they watch, as they’ll be a cheaper user using less bandwidth. Am I missing something?

> YouTube added a feature so I can easily skip in-video sponsored sections

That feature benefits YouTube, too. Maybe even more than its value as a Premium feature. It makes it so that viewers can skip the ads the creator was paid to make without YouTube getting a cut of the proceeds, pushing down the value of those ads.

Re: YouTube users get option to set their Shorts time limit to zero minutes

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Post by pabs3 »

runevault wrote: post #109
savanaly wrote: post #8

>YouTube now lets you turn off Shorts No it doesn't. If you were hoping it would mean you don't see shorts when you visit the Youtube home page, that's not what this is. I just tried the thing mentioned in the article-- set my Shorts time limit to 0 minutes. What it does is make it so if you click a short from somewhere the short plays, but then if you try to swipe to the next one it hits you with the "You reached yo…

It really amazes how how Youtube refuses to let me hide stuff I don't want to see on my homepage. I still long for the ability to tell them to not give me mix playlists, I do not want them, and often they annoy me when the first song is one I'd click on but I don't want to have to pay attention enough to kill it before the next song plays (since you cannot disable play next in playlists...)

If you have uBlock Origin installed, the subreddit wiki for it has lots of options for blocking stuff on YouTube.

https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/wiki/solutions/youtube

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