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Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I still use it and find it helpful. My OpenClaw instance uses an Obsidian project as its memory. Mainly, it's just my main day-to-day LLM that I access via WhatsApp, but instead of the memory being locked away with a specific vendor, it's stored in version control that I can read and edit. That reason alone makes it compelling to me. When a better LLM comes along, I can just switch, and my memory and system prompts c…

Great article, thanks for sharing. How much does it run you a month roughly?

I recently switched to Codex using my ChatGPT Plus subscription, so only $20 a month or so. Before that, using Opus 4.5/6 it was like $100-150.

Opus was by far the best at the job, but Codex with GPT 5.4 is decent.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I still use it and find it helpful. My OpenClaw instance uses an Obsidian project as its memory. Mainly, it's just my main day-to-day LLM that I access via WhatsApp, but instead of the memory being locked away with a specific vendor, it's stored in version control that I can read and edit. That reason alone makes it compelling to me. When a better LLM comes along, I can just switch, and my memory and system prompts c…

Do you build out your own information hierarchies and tell the model to use as-is, or do you let it organize everything itself?

I already had the hierarchy from years of maintaining the notes, but for new things I do collaborate with the model on how best to structure stuff and get it to refactor when needed.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I tried it tonight, and it's installation is frustrating to say the least.

For me `openclaw init` did not work, and I've tried installing twice, and still running into issues. Also it took fairly beefy vps on my home server at 4GB of ram, so not sure how I feel about it.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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When I saw Jensen's talk about how Openclaw surpassed React and Linux in terms of GitHub stars within a few months, I knew the whole thing was manufactured bot hype. No one can tell me a compelling use case. The whole thing seems designed around getting people to burn more tokens.

"Thing that has huge adoption is fake, they're all morons!"

That's like saying NFTs (remember those?) has "huge adoption".

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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eh nothing actual mission critical, however managing my home server has become a breeze and kinda fun, I've given my openclaw/nanoclaw a personality whose sole job is to tend to my server and enjoy it.

I have a bunch of telegram notifiers and bot templates laid out already as well as the whole arr stack.

So say a friend wants to track a tv show, I just ask openclaw to track it and setup a bot to notify them, it manages everything and sets it up cleanly (most of the time). They also have access to the public media directory so they can ask the bot when the next episode will come out or if some other show is available etc. Again, not super critical but building out this level of ux would've taken me a lonnnng time, it's pretty nice to have some company in managing my server as well which is a kinda lonely experience. Fun stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I am but that is despite there being many very solid reasons not to. It's mainly painful until you sort out the many plumbing issues. This thread is going to be full of people telling you why not to use it. I'm not going to add more to that pile of great arguments except to acknowledge that, yes, it is super messy, insecure, dangerous, etc. I'm well aware.

So, why use it anyway? The promise of agentic workflows is very real. If you have seriously used agentic coding tools, you probably have figured out that in certain contexts it is a bit magical to see these tools solve real problems and do in minutes what would take you hours or days manually. It will also have exposed you to things like skills, guard rails, etc. that help you use these tools in a way that is a bit more repeatable and less prone to hallucinated outcomes. All this ports over well to OpenClaw. And in fact, you don't actually need OpenClaw as you can get most of what you are going to do in OpenClaw in agentic coding tools instead. Same models, same cli tools, same skills, etc. Try doing that instead if you don't want to go near OpenClaw.

OpenClaw only adds a few elements to this: 1) channels to communicate, 2) "agents" with memories and personalities in the form of markdown files and a feedback loop that updates these things out of the box. You can hack together stuff to add both to your agentic coding tools.

My company sells coaching and consulting services to people who are not programming that are interested in making a dent in the amount of digital drudgery work that they currently have to do. And because we sell it, I need to be able to actually do this. If you are a programmer you don't need our help. However, most of this planet is stuck with tools like ChatGPT that are very limited for this. There just are not a lot of good tools for these people yet. OpenClaw is a very rough, uncut diamond that if you get beyond its scary nature can actually do useful stuff. Tools will get better later. But right now, things just are going to be messy.

What I would recommend curious people: carve out some time to give this a serious try and don't give up too soon. Isolate it all you want. But focus on getting something useful going. You'll be solving lots of plumbing and configuration issues. And you'll need some imagination to make it do useful stuff because out of the box it's a bit useless and dumb until you make it actually do something useful.

Example of what I did recently that is useful and probably should be baked into the product.

Problem: setting up openclaw agents, hooking them up so you can talk to them, and configuring them is super tedious and fiddly in OpenClaw. Solution: an agent that does that.

How? For communication channels, I set up a new self hosted matrix server. Our company is now in there; we're ditching Slack. Because Slack is so locked down that it just can't really work for this. Matrix works really well for this. A lot of SAAS tools are locked down like this and finding workarounds is most of the work with agentic workflows. Replacing them is easier and the power move to make.

Synapse (the matrix server) has a cli and REST API. So, I created an admin bot user for OpenClaw to use that from an OpenClaw admin agent. That agent can create other agents, configure them with a model and a few other things. It gives them a new matrix bot user and hooks up a newly created room in matrix and then invites the team there. I didn't actually create that agent manually either; I made Codex bootstrap the admin agent for me. Because I used Codex to bootstrap the Matrix and OpenClaw vms for me earlier. So it had access already. Then I went on to create a few more agents with a few prompts. I actually made it rearrange my Matrix space and rooms as well. Because tedious and I just gave it access to that so why not. Yes, this involves giving admin access to an OpenClaw bot and this is scary.

We have a slide deck agent that uses reveal.js that you can use to prompt beautiful slides together. We have an SEO agent that figures out the right seo language for us to use and updates that regularly on our website. A competitive landscape agent that crawls a range of competitor websites to stay on top of what they are doing, what they are talking about, who they are linking to as customers, partners, etc. I have loads of plans for additional agents. We focus on agents that our clients would want to have so that we can get them going with those once they ask for that.

Once you get a few things like this up and running, this stuff becomes more useful quickly. It's still scary AF to give it access to all the stuff it needs. And you really really shouldn't. But it can't be useful unless you do. Classic security dilemma here. Throw out the baby with the bathwater or get things done now? Security often loses. And then people scramble to enable doing things in a more responsible way. I don't want to have to wait a few years for that to play out. But I recommend most other people to wait. It's the responsible thing to recommend. But if you don't want to, we can help you along the way and help you mitigate at least some of the risks.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I don't personally know many people who've used it so I'm not sure if this was a me thing but here was my experience in short: I set up OpenClaw on a raspberry pi 4 that I could ssh into using my main computer. My main goal for using OpenClaw was just as a morning debriefer that could scan my google calendar, trello board, and gmail to let me know what I had happening for the day and also weekly to give me a forecast…

Why not use Claude to write yourself a daily briefing, and deliver it to your email or someplace you’ll receive it?

That's what I ended up doing, made my daily briefing a Cron job and running it via "claude -p". Wired it up to make a podcast, with MCP tools I made to create an MP3 with OpenAI, another to upload it to one of my sites with an updated RSS feed, so I can listen in the AntennaPod podcast app each morning.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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How do y'all manage conversations with OpenClaw through platforms like WhatsApp? I mean conversation history and multiple conversations in parallel.

I set up a matrix server. Each OpenClaw agent gets its own bot user and room. I can @tag agents, invite them to rooms, and query them. I have one agent that has admin access to matrix and can create additional agents. WhatsApp kind of half works but it's tedious and flaky and you end up chatting with yourself unless you have a lot of spare phone numbers to create bot users. Slack flat out doesn't work because they've locked it down. Other things are available. But Matrix does the job and is straightforward to integrate with OpenClaw. Also great if you want to use this with multiple users.

Re: Ask HN: Who is using OpenClaw?

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I’ve also found it useful for personal stuff. For example I have my OpenClaw bot in a family group on Telegram and everyday it asks my family members stories from their lives that it meticulously documents and uses as a basis for further questions in the future and has so far managed to build a rich family history spanning 50 odd family members (a project I had always been planning to do for never found the time to).

I am weirded out but this, I find it horrific, like some kind of mind zombie, leeching humanity from your family members. Someone somewhere is thinking they're connecting with you and sharing their humanity but they're just shoveling their soul into a machine that is "meticulously documenting" them. Sorry, but ick.

Btw my family know they are talking to the bot and they know that the bot is taking notes for our benefit. And I am in the channel and I enjoy reading those stories myself and would have never thought to ask those questions myself. Sometimes I ask the follow up questions myself too...
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