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Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by kybernetikos »

JesseAldridge wrote: post #51
demodesigns wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me start of by saying thank you! Your feedback is great at any rate The near matches are there to guide you through Tough words you may face that leave you stuck at the gate But alas near matches help give you a clue To help keep your poem straight This tool is still yet a hack and much too new Have a bit of hope and we will help you create Great poetry for all to view I don't believe we are doomed in fate The po…

I do think it's nice I poke and I jest This mu'fuckin thingy It's really the best Despite the bad rhymes Showing up on the right I think this here app Is tighter than tight Do you not see wrong words? Showing up over there? Right now it says "bright" Which we both know ain't right My poem til here Was like ABCB? A failure perhaps To detect that rhyme scheme? I'm not a poet I think you can tell I'm just like a kid Jus…

I'm not sure you're not a poet. This one and your earlier one have a certain something that is definitely more than what is being added by the tool (compare them with the response by demodesigns, yours are simply better poetry).

I particularly like

    Right now it says "bright"
    Which we both know ain't right"
Because of course as soon as you used it it became right.

By the way, the numbers on the left are the syllable count. Pretty useful if you're doing a limerick or haiku.

Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by diminish »

adrianhoward wrote: post #78

This is lovely. I always get a special joy from seeing things like this. This is something I would never have thought of. It fills such an obvious hole in hindsight. It opens up a place where folk can suddenly experiment and play with something that they might have been afraid of previously. It opens things up. This reminds me of when I helped out with some teacher training in my teens waaaaay back in 1986/87. We wer…

It is a remarkable idea how far an IDE can go; I wonder if an emacs poetry mode would do the same job.

Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by lazerwalker »

speleding wrote: post #70

I have a simply query, is there a way to replace the dictionary? the language I would like to change for me, Klingon poetry is too strange

Alternate rhyming dictionaries is actually a really interesting problem, as different cultures have different ideas of what the ideal rhyme is.

In English, words where the onset consonant is the same (e.g. 'tend' and 'attend') are considered relatively poor rhymes, whereas in French they're considered to be "rich". In Portugese, even the part of speech is taken into account: a rhyme between a noun and a verb is considered a better rhyme, say, than two nouns that rhyme.

This is obviously a solved problems (I mean, you can buy rhyming dictionaries in France or Portugal), but I wonder if it would have any interesting ramifications on the design of the feature.

Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by dschiptsov »

This is exactly what is wrong.

A poem, or a program or mathematical prove could be written down only after it has been emerged, formed to some extent, in one's mind.

When people sat town to write something but having no idea that was thought over for a long time (consciously and as background processes) with hope that an IDE will help them quickly put together a program, or a poem, they will end up with a mediocre piece of a crap.

It is true for almost every kind of writing, including letters or blog-posts. Matlab alone cannot help you prove anything.

Being a poet (or programmer) is a habit of the mind. A rhythm is not a problem, the meaning is.

Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by MrDrone »

I hate to be a naysayer but I'm not sure how helpful this would be to your average poet. Things like rhyme and meter counts are rarely involved in early drafts of poems. If you're shooting for a certain style or form typically you keep that in mind as you produce but I'd wager the vast majority of work being produced today doesn't follow any major scheme.

This seems like a tool made for poets without the input of poets based on a skewed idea of what a poet needs.

EDIT: I've been writing poetry for about 4 years and have taken 5+ university poetry classes. I'm by no means a "poet" or in anyway an expert on poetry but to me, I'm not sure I understand the strength in this.

First, when I'm looking for something to write in I absolutely want a minimalist interface. Anything more than that is an immediate distraction. I use iA Writer on a Macbook Air or on an iPad. I've heard combinations like this described as "typewriter" like in their single-task orientation.

This app has too many distractions. While writing the last thing I would want to break my flow is a barrage of information about bits and pieces of my work that, for the most part, aren't relevant. I do not write with any sort of meter or rhyme in mind (rhyming as a crutch is an amateur device and the biggest red flag of someone with an incomplete knowledge of poetry) but after critiques from peers and layers of revisions sometimes these elements do come out and get accentuated in my work.

In the ballpark of features I would like? Collaboration! Workshopping poems is by far the most satisfying and useful way to improve your poetry. Find ways to share documents with multiple people, get feedback and respond to it. Things like Google Docs/Drive have barriers of entry that if you can remove would make this app excellent for sharing with peers who aren't local.

Right now I use a combination of Google Drive, iCloud and email to share my work, keep track of revisions and send out requests. Its probably the most major hurdle in my workflow and something begging to be addressed for writers.

Re: Show HN: An IDE for poets

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Post by shreyas-satish » 

  Look at all these hackers,
  Using an app, rhyming their prosaic chapters.

  Are they gone? The times when love and loss,
  Inspired mankind, towards poems and songs?

  Quit bitchin' & give it a spin,
  You silently curse,
  Didn't you see? I already joined; this fucking circus.
Awesome hack OP! Thank you for doing this.
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