Όχι.
Όχι από μέρους μου, και επίσης δεν γνωρίζω τη νέα συμφωνία για την ορθογραφία της πορτογαλικής γλώσσας.
New Modern Greek
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#22A fun excercise but lots of corner cases not covered. For example the words ακριβός (expensive) and ακριβώς (exactly) would have exactly the same spelling
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#23This would sever the connection to the ancient language, which is central to Greek identity. We would have a better chance of an English spelling reform—arguably more essential given its lingua franca status and absurd spelling. But we know that’s not going to happen. Regardless, a fun exercise. I’ve thought a lot about the sound drift, case merging, loss of the infinitive and such. Good to see someone else’s ideas o…
Has nobody tried to create an alternative English spelling a bit like the Chinese have done with Pinyin. This would be more for the benefit of learners rather than trying to change Greek identity.
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#24Similarly I think some work should be done on the Russian alphabet too,
уоэа (uoea) юёея -> ÿöëä
And do something about all those bees : ВБбьыъ
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#25Modern Greek has so much continuity with ancient that, if you know ancient, you can read plenty of signs and pick your way through pamphlets at museums and archaeological sites. Every Greek I have known has valued that continuity and history. The proposed change -- rendering any text printed prior to the revision obsolete and eventually unreadable -- amounts to cultural suicide.
Maybe you can recognize the continuity as a native Greek speaker. As someone who has learnt Ancient Greek that didn't help at all when I visited Greece. I mean even the letters (some) are now used differently.
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#26Merging all the iota sounds into ι, and ω into ο destroys too much grammatically. I don't understand what the point of this is?
Yeah this is where I kind of reached the conclusion that the amount of grammar encoded in a single word is something I actually really like with Greek and that my simplification was too naive.
The point was that I just wanted to see what some ideas I had would look and feel like.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because I'm using the latin v for the αυ, ευ = aV / aF. So I felt like keeping the greek ν alongside the "new" v would make them hard to distinguish. But you're right, this adds confusion. Especially for a native Greek speaker, and I'm not very satisfied with this solution. Any suggestions? PS. Updated site with some more info about the conversions.
Why not αβ, εφ;
Hmm yeah, didn't consider that!
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#28Warning: This website has audio which is activated when you press the letters, despite not giving any fair warning indication of this. Not a nice surprise if you're at work!
Sorry about that! Added a disclaimer
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#29A fun excercise but lots of corner cases not covered. For example the words ακριβός (expensive) and ακριβώς (exactly) would have exactly the same spelling
I quickly realized that this was the greatest downside of the simplification.
And actually kills one of the things I actually really like about the Greek language.
This would make Greek more like English for example where you need more context surrounding words to understand their meaning.
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#30Interesting take, but as a sibling commented: όχι. > αι = ε > αι already sounds identical to ε in Modern Greek, so the digraph is dropped. sounds the same, but the distinction actually helps semantically (helps identify passive voice vs active notably). > ει, οι, υι, η, υ = ι > all these spellings produce the same /i/ sound. This does however remove spelling distinctions that currently encode grammatical information…
Thank you so much for this thorough analysis. Really appreciate it.
I'm pretty convinced now that my experiment just proved my theory that I could somehow improve on the language - wrong.
Mostly, like I said in other comments, losing all of the grammar encoded in words is just not worth it just to make it somewhat easier to read (to someone who doesn't already know Greek).
I guess I had to see it for myself to understand it, so I feel like it was still a worthwhile little experiment.