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Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by jfoworjf »

fluidcruft wrote: post #21
jfoworjf wrote: post #5

This story is the one that finally pushed me to leave google. I moved off my ~20 year old Google account and deleted everything off their services including almost a decade of Google photos. I cancelled my Google one subscription for extra space. I'm now self hosting what I can and paying proton mail for everything else. I refuse to allow a company that will hand over data at the request of an administrative warrant…

When did you find out about this? The timeline of this actually pushing you to do all that seems a bit unbelievable and difficult to take seriously.

As other comments say, it was a major story months ago. I started moving off around December. It's a long process to switch over all email accounts. I only recently got self hosted kubernetes set up for immich as a Google photos replacement and some other hosting needs but for the most part I am off google. I get probably 1-2 emails a week still going to Gmail but when I do I just switch those accounts to my new email. It will be a while before the old Gmail is deleted entirely unfortunately.

I didn't mention it in op but I also moved to graphene os which tbh feels much better than android has recently.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by LastTrain »

WalterBright wrote: post #55

I simply assume that everything that travels out of my home through a wire gets tracked and stored by the government. Everywhere you go, if your phone is in your pocket, you are being tracked and stored, and available to the government. Everywhere your car goes, is tracked and stored and available to the government. BTW, the J6 protesters were all tracked and identified by their cell phone data.

Some of them were identified by DNA left in the shit they took on Pelosi’s desk.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by traderj0e »

selectodude wrote: post #70
traderj0e wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Democrats have so far not been led by the nose into bombing Iran and fucking up the global economy so I’m not sure how one can keep saying that with a straight face.

Both sides of Congress passed emergency weapons funding for Israel at the start of this war. Even if some Democrats are scoring political points complaining about it since it's during Trump's term and the war has become a stalemate, they're on board at the end of the day, like they were with Iraq (as some forget) before things unraveled. And during Biden's term, it was Gaza instead.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by dismalaf »

jfoworjf wrote: post #5

This story is the one that finally pushed me to leave google. I moved off my ~20 year old Google account and deleted everything off their services including almost a decade of Google photos. I cancelled my Google one subscription for extra space. I'm now self hosting what I can and paying proton mail for everything else. I refuse to allow a company that will hand over data at the request of an administrative warrant…

Apple and Microsoft are also subject to US laws. It's not like any company can get around this.

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by john_strinlai »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #13
ihaveajob wrote: post #8

"Don't be evil" they used to say.

They dropped that a long time ago, at least a decade ago. Which is really an odd thing to do, what company would think that not being evil was holding it back but Google clearly did.

this is a fun story, but... its a story.

here is the google code of conduct: https://abc.xyz/investor/board-and-governance/google-code-of...

scroll down to the bottom, and you will see:

"And remember... don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up!"

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by wmil »

orbisvicis wrote: post #56

How was Amandla even identified? Stingray at the protest? Then how was the phone number linked to Google? Facial recognition at the protest? I guess his details are on file under terms of the visa? So then the government simply asks Google for all details on the individual by name? Either is pretty disturbing.

Cell carriers sell geofenced data about cell phones in an area at a given time to anyone. There's zero privacy.

KYC laws mean that his carrier has his name and email address and the feds probably got that without anyone informing the customer.

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Post by smallmancontrov »

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #77
smallmancontrov wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech indicates that this absolutely needs to be on the HN front page. > the administration’s rhetoric about cracking down on students protesting what we saw as genocide forced me into hiding for three months. Federal agents came to my home looking for me. A friend was detained at an airport in Tampa and interrogated about my whereabouts.

I'm all ears if you've got someone that we can put in power that won't rat fuck us when it comes to privacy or civil liberties. Bonus points if they aren't just slightly less bad than the other guy.

Kamala was a lot less bad than Trump. It wasn't close.

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Post by bdhe »

traderj0e wrote: post #69
smallmancontrov wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of HNers who were earnestly arguing that this was the party of free speech indicates that this absolutely needs to be on the HN front page. > the administration’s rhetoric about cracking down on students protesting what we saw as genocide forced me into hiding for three months. Federal agents came to my home looking for me. A friend was detained at an airport in Tampa and interrogated about my whereabouts.

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What facts would you point to, to argue that the Democratic party is "owned by Israel" more than the Republican party?

Re: Google broke its promise to me – now ICE has my data

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Post by dismalaf »

eaf7e281 wrote: post #45

I still don't understand. Who gave ICE such power, and who is ordering them to do all this? To me, ICE's actions are similar to those of a private army.

Believe it or not, immigration authorities (like the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency) have the power to enforce immigration laws.

The author isn't American.

Edit - wait until y'all find out other countries also have borders and laws...

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