Steven Sinofsky to Leave Microsoft

Post by ayi » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 2:22 PM UTC

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Thanks for pointing us to that link. I was surprised & pleased to learn that two women were promoted as a result of Sinofsky's departure: Julie Larson-Green and Tami Reller. Good for them, and all of us who enjoy seeing a little more gender balance. Any MSFT'ers here who can comment on their backgrounds?

Julie Larson-Green brought the Ribbon interface to Office and then to other parts of Windows. Her ability to bring change to something as stable as the Office UI and the Windows Explorer UI was seen as a good thing.

Post by kalid » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 2:56 PM UTC

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I like it as a product to disrupt the market. I think the product itself is incredibly underwhelming and would agree with psychotik.

Ok you both said underwhelming, but I'm curious in what ways you think so? Personally I think the product is incredible in many ways, and overall very overwhelming/impressive relative to my expectations, however to me it has two very core faults: 1. Performance. Many actions are perfectly fine, however v things like videos can be choppy, and even reading a Kindle book is choppy. 2. DPI of the screen. It's a nice scre…

Post by danek » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 3:14 PM UTC

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This is a stunning development and most of MSFT is probably in shock right now. It's hard to overstate the scope and influence Sinofsky had at MSFT. This was a man widely expected to be the next CEO and he had impact way outside his organization (the 'Sinofsky-ization of teams'). Also, his stock was rising inside MSFT (when you stay inside the company long enough, you can sense which executives are in trouble and whi…

Post by AlexandrB » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 3:34 PM UTC

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I think the gestures are cool, and in a world where everyone was really into "neat" interfaces it'd be the way to go. They score particularly high on efficiency. But designers tend to drastically underestimate discoverabity, particularly discoverabity by novice users. Many entire software companies exist purely because the market leader's product lacks discoverabity of a feature. Twitter, in some ways, exists because…

I think your vision is wrong because you criticize traditional idea of hiding power features and exposition of basic, but Microsoft did opposite. They exposed power features (see Ribbon) and hid basic. Every user will learn gestures because this is the only way to call Start screen with mouse and without it there is nothing to do. Beginners will search internet with "How to shutdown Windows 8" and will find about set…

Post by beagle3 » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 3:42 PM UTC

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Windows Longhorn was the internal codename for Vista. I think that you are thinking of Windows 7 being rushed, focused, and pragmatic fix to the fiasco that was Vista. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista From the first paragraph of the article: Prior to its announcement on July 22, 2005, Windows Vista was known by its codename "Longhorn" edit: ref to wikipedia edit2: suggestion to parent.

Trivia. Longhorn was supposedly a completely new architecture. The filesystem was supposed to be SQL Server based plus other architectual astronautery. It was an executive dreamed clusterfuck with no technical merit. Quite similar to IBM's Workplace project, which also never came to fruition. Both (Longhorn and Workplace) were the culmination of RDBMS hype, where companies left and right tried to solve every problem…