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Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

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What would also be very interesting is a graph of relationships and movements. Let's see just how incestuous the boards really are, and what's going on with serial CEOs who move from one business to the next.

I worked on a knowledge graph map using Wikidata to get relationship between people and organizations, but data was limited to family, basic stuff. Being from Europe, there isn't an open data analogue of SEC. Now I will download this data, it is open so no license at all, and try to show these kind of relationships. It has the potential of being very investigative, especially for USA residents.

Is it that Europe doesn't have any open data analogues of the SEC, or is it that each European country has its own open data analog?

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#42
post #38

I think one of the interesting things here is that many senior executives make similar base pay to very senior ICs. The primary compensation difference is in their equity compensation, where executives get massive PSU/RSU packages, while senior ICs get much more modest packages. A senior IC may have 30-50% of their compensation as stock, while a typical senior executives may have as much as 97% of their compensation…

I think this is a good thing? At least from the perspective of aligning incentives with shareholders?

Sbc is not always good for shareholders if anything it can obfuscate actual valuations

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#43
post #21

did you write the SEC parsers yourself or use oss/off the shelf tech?

Built it myself. The filing structure is somewhat consistent enough to parse programmatically, then an LLM handles the unstructured parts (with a lot of trial and error)

And you just scrape it straight from sec.gov?

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#44
post #5

The site fails to load...it just gets stuck in a fetching state. Another downside of vibe programming.

That idea is actually a perfect example for a good use of vibe coding.

It was just an idea first, now it’s a decent website to test the viability of the idea.

I don’t think it was intended for anything else than so if there is real demand for this.

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#45
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on a knowledge graph map using Wikidata to get relationship between people and organizations, but data was limited to family, basic stuff. Being from Europe, there isn't an open data analogue of SEC. Now I will download this data, it is open so no license at all, and try to show these kind of relationships. It has the potential of being very investigative, especially for USA residents.

Is it that Europe doesn't have any open data analogues of the SEC, or is it that each European country has its own open data analog?

Each european countries has various orgs, types of license. It is easier to start from SEC to integrate that data into my site, also you have to test a bit what users care about.

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look now that the site loads, is it a bit sketchy that you are asking 50 dollars subscription, one can't even navigate the site a bit without subscribing. You don't even have a working and tested product and already want to make money.

The explore page is free and always will be. The main site shows real time changes too, just capped at a few recent ones. The $50 is for the full feed, alerts, search, comp data. Comparable to other sales intel tools but I hear you on letting people try more before paying. Gonna work on that.

Would you consider making a stale dataset (3day, 1 week, idk..?) available for other projects (but also protect your revenue stream?) I assume the value in the paid option would be real-time updates but I'm not sure exactly what the target consumer is

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

#48
post #38

I think one of the interesting things here is that many senior executives make similar base pay to very senior ICs. The primary compensation difference is in their equity compensation, where executives get massive PSU/RSU packages, while senior ICs get much more modest packages. A senior IC may have 30-50% of their compensation as stock, while a typical senior executives may have as much as 97% of their compensation…

I think this is a good thing? At least from the perspective of aligning incentives with shareholders?

Maybe? I think the jury might still be out on whether equity compensation aligns incentives. Most equity compensation is treated same-as-cash for the perspective of taxation, and unless there are regulatory or contractual limits affecting holdings, it's commonplace for executives to offload shares as they vest as part of normal compensating activities just like your typical FAANG engineer does.

I was thinking it was interesting more from the socioeconomic perspective:

1. Senior execs are still "working for the man", even if their compensation is materially different from other employees, except in the case of founders of mega-caps.

2. From a socioeconomic lifestyle perspective, the primary differentiator is that senior executives can afford larger one-time costs/upfront costs due to their equity compensation, but have to maintain fairly similar ongoing costs to senior ICs. E.g. a senior exec can afford to buy a nicer house in SFBA because of Prop 13 limiting ongoing property taxes and the ability to shell out more up front to either avoid a mortgage or minimize payments, but their ongoing lifestyle expenses otherwise are most likely not materially different.

Basically, given the rhetoric, I was expecting that senior execs were essentially living in a totally different parallel world from senior ICs in tech, but it doesn't seem that this is really the case /other than/ probably social connections and society. In both cases these employees are highly compensated, but still ultimately employees, and neither is on a rocketship into the billionaire class. The difference between a billionaire and a 50-millioniare (senior exec) is about a billion dollars, the difference between a billionaire and a 3-millionaire (senior IC) is about a billion dollars.

Maybe my take is wrong, but I'd expect that is more about fringe benefits (e.g. access to corporate PJ) than direct compensation.

Re: Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The explore page is free and always will be. The main site shows real time changes too, just capped at a few recent ones. The $50 is for the full feed, alerts, search, comp data. Comparable to other sales intel tools but I hear you on letting people try more before paying. Gonna work on that.

Would you consider making a stale dataset (3day, 1 week, idk..?) available for other projects (but also protect your revenue stream?) I assume the value in the paid option would be real-time updates but I'm not sure exactly what the target consumer is

Yeah been thinking about that. A delayed public feed or an API with a lag makes sense. The real-time piece is where the paid value is so anything older than a few weeks/months could be opened up
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