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Re: Amazon to acquire Globalstar and expand Amazon Leo satellite network

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SpaceX and Amazon seem to be headed for competing with traditional telecoms and ISPs. I'm betting the next acquisition target will be AST SpaceMobile. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see big telecom/ISP mergers pass regulatory approval now that they have competition from the heavens

> I'm betting the next acquisition target will be AST SpaceMobile.

Or possibly viasat.

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Why space data centers? What advantage this would have? Cooling will be a big issue, while it is easily solved on the planet earth, as we have water, air that can transfer heat away.

Defense systems in space need to be... in space. I don't think people are looking at this the right way. They need to be inaccessible to terrestrial and air weapons, have lower latency, not be dependent on power plants, etc.

That's true, but they're also very vulnerable to ground based LASERs.

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If something hits a house then you can analyze what hit it. I wouldn't make a conspiracy out of it. Meteor and space junk are quite different things.

You can, but what if they don’t want to?

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Why space data centers? What advantage this would have? Cooling will be a big issue, while it is easily solved on the planet earth, as we have water, air that can transfer heat away.

You don't have to buy real estate.

Land is pretty much irellevent in the cost.

The Utah Data Center [0] is a 200 acre plot with 35 acres of buildings.

Even prime farmland values is arround $10k an acre, or $2m, but for other land you're talking $400k for that much land [1]

It uses 65MW. The solar panels alone to generate that cost $100 per kW in bulk, or $6.5m.

That's 570GWh a year.

Mount Signal 1 Solar plant, from over a decade ago, produces about that currently. Total cost $365m [2].

Then there's the lifetime? What do you do in 36 months time when you want to replace the hardware with the latest generation? In an earthbound one you turn off the rack, remove the old kit, put the new kit in. In space, it just burns up in the atmosphere.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

[1] https://www.land.com/property/201-acres-in-brown-county-nebr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Signal_Solar

Re: Amazon to acquire Globalstar and expand Amazon Leo satellite network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why space data centers? What advantage this would have? Cooling will be a big issue, while it is easily solved on the planet earth, as we have water, air that can transfer heat away.

Defense systems in space need to be... in space. I don't think people are looking at this the right way. They need to be inaccessible to terrestrial and air weapons, have lower latency, not be dependent on power plants, etc.

Far easier for someone like Iran or China or the US to take out an LEO satellite than an underground data centre, or even a surface on in the case of DCs in US or China.

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>Cooling will be a big issue a 1m2 at 70C radiates 785 Watt. Seems thet cooling will be more simple than on Earth.

A 1m2 heatsink/fan on earth can sink kWs. My heatpump is about 1m2 area and can sink 15kw. Seems earth is at least 20x times better.

If you build a pyramid with the base pointing to the sun (as solar), and a "height" about 5 times the base in constant shadow, with decent internal circulation, that will operate at sub-20C just from the two radiative sides pointing away from Earth (you make the earth pointing sides reflective)

Cooling isn't an issue.

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If something hits a house then you can analyze what hit it. I wouldn't make a conspiracy out of it. Meteor and space junk are quite different things.

You can , but what if they don’t want to?

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