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#121

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Who are you to speak on behalf of society? Wouldn't society also be better off if those who stole your car got caught? Further, I'm not sure why there is an expectation of privacy in public places. You don't have to consent to being filmed when you're walking down a public sidewalk.

You should.

Why?

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#122
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We need a law that says if you hold any data about a person, they must be notified when anyone accesses it, including law enforcement. I used to work in criminal investigations. I understand how this might make investigation of real crime more difficult. But so does the fact that you need a warrant to enter someone's home, and yet we manage to investigate crime anyway. Your data should be an extension of your home, e…

We'll sooner get a law that will forbid notifying a person when such data is passed to law enforcement.

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#123

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Yes, let's have no federal immigration enforcement entity in this country, novel idea.

Well, while I don't know you personally. Most working people are older than ICE. It's actually a relatively new agency and clearly not effective.

It's a relatively new agency in name (2003), but it's not really all that new. It was formerly known as the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) and U.S. Customs.

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#124
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Correct, whoever made the decision to create ICE, as it became a security risk that lead to deaths. Glad that's what you said, and no other valid interpretation.

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So how can we trust any of your numbers if at the same time you say the numbers are unreliable a priori?

Stick to a lane.

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#125
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You want to stop the source, which is that the government and other agencies can purchase surveillance data that would otherwise be disallowed by the 4th amendment. We need to end this 'laundering' of information through third parties, and enforce the constitution by its intent.

100 miles around your border is a constitution free zone anyway.

It's not Constitution-free, but CBP does claim a lot of extra rights within that zone. It covers about two-thirds of the U.S. population.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

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#126

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Well, while I don't know you personally. Most working people are older than ICE. It's actually a relatively new agency and clearly not effective.

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It's pretty gross you're deciding a person's value based on if they fit your political narrative. They were all victims

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#127

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Not just the government. It shouldn't be possible for any random stalker to find someone's daily movements.

How is that achievable? PIs can legally do it. Random people can keep tabs on you and exchange gossip. It's the sudden scale and low cost that doesn't sit well with freedom to not be tracked in public 24/7 we took for granted.

It's not achievable.

The only way is through - everybody should get into the practice of stalking and gossiping about each other in a Molochian environment, where the people who do not do so suffer from the losing side of an information asymmetry.

Expect AI, especially post-Mythos, to just enable this at even further scale. Consumer grade wireless networking gear as a whole is a very wide attack surface and is basically never updated.

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#129
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I followed the shooting at Brown University last year very closely. Brown's leadership was heavily criticized for having camera blind spots and not being able to track the shooter's exact movements through campus. I can understand why people with stewardship over the safety of their students/customers/constituents would make decisions to err on the side of tracking. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I understand it…

I'm sorry... people think that the problem with, a school shooting , is camera placement? Something, something, forest, trees.

"No way to prevent this" says the only country where this regularly happens

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We need a law that says if you hold any data about a person, they must be notified when anyone accesses it, including law enforcement. I used to work in criminal investigations. I understand how this might make investigation of real crime more difficult. But so does the fact that you need a warrant to enter someone's home, and yet we manage to investigate crime anyway. Your data should be an extension of your home, e…

The entities holding the information here are literally police departments. The information itself is evidence, used in active criminal investigations. It's good to want things, though.

The information is not in any way restricted to use in active criminal investigations, and further, has been found to frequently be used for a variety of other purposes.

It's a bit like saying pornography is used in the study of human anatomy.

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