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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by pjc50 »

foruhar wrote: post #113

Hyperbolically, I think it's one of humanity's greatest resources. I can find anything from precision machining, LLM internals, historical footage of WWI, music performances from pretty much any era, and on, and on. There are so many things that I didn't know there was any footage of or that I didn't a single thing about that I find there pretty much daily. I wish the BBC would publish their whole archive through YT.…

Quite a lot of stuff is on iPlayer. But as always, licensing is the killer.

(Not to mention reputational risk, which is why so many episodes of Top Of The Pops are hidden)

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by charcircuit »

Clamchop wrote: post #90
charcircuit wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>hide old videos they cannot monetize All videos are monetized. Some videos don't do rev share with the author, but YouTube still gets the ad rev.

Demonetized videos show fewer or no ads. It's something they implemented because advertisers don't want to be associated with some kinds of content.

I think at this point all videos have ads. Demonized videos not having ads hasn't been a thing for what feels like years.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Hikikomori »

dmbche wrote: post #84
rickcarlino wrote: post #28

My biggest concern about Youtube is that they do not truly have a competitor. They just raised premium prices again making it one of my most expensive entertainment subscriptions.

Newpipe and freepipe!

Or smart tube and revanced.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by imiric »

tombert wrote: post #51
meetingthrower wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has happened to me btw. I can only suspect they are "testing" the reception.

Ugh. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have a very strong, borderline-irrational distaste for ads. I hate advertising, I hate having to watch advertisements, I will go out of my way considerably to avoid ads. I have over 400 blu-rays specifically because I wanted to guarantee that I don't have to risk seeing ads in my media. I liked YouTube Premium because it was an ethical way to avoid ads on YouTube; there's alw…

> I liked YouTube Premium because it was an ethical way to avoid ads on YouTube

Why would you behave ethically towards a company that is anything but?

The slight remorse I feel by not using official YT frontends is towards creators I enjoy watching, who I try to support via other means, if possible. But then again, any creator or business who chooses advertising as their only business model doesn't deserve my support.

Advertising is a scourge on humanity. It corrupts every medium of information by allowing sleazy middlemen to psychologically manipulate one party not just into buying products out of manufactured desire, but into thinking and behaving in ways that serve someone's agenda. It is weaponized via platforms built by adtech companies, which have played a major role in the current sociopolitical instability in the world. It is so insidious that even though it has concentrated incredible amounts of wealth into the hands of a few, most people see it as harmless because they get products and services for "free". To hell with all of that.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

> Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again.

Either I'm doing something very right, or everyone else is doing something very wrong, because my front page of YouTube is fine.

Most of my front page is videos about games I play or have played (Factorio, Arc Raiders, Cyberpunk 2077, Cities: Skylines, and more), dash cam compilations (Which I watch a lot of), and various videos from channels I'm subscribed to such as Kurzgesagt, Chubbyemu, ElectroBOOM, LockPickingLawyer, Engineering Explained, Veritasium (Just discovered Newcomb's Problem and I'm a solid one-boxer) and more.

I never see Mr Beast or any of the other channels people complain about recommended to me. Every recommendation is relevant. YouTube knows me well.

Somehow, it just seems some people use YouTube in such a way that YouTube can't figure out what you like, and so you just get a default recommendation.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #93
rickcarlino wrote: post #28

My biggest concern about Youtube is that they do not truly have a competitor. They just raised premium prices again making it one of my most expensive entertainment subscriptions.

Netflix, Disney, Paramount, cable TV, satellite TV, Twitch, etc etc It's like saying McDonalds doesn't have any competitor.

Those aren't competitors to YouTube for the sole reason that nearly anybody can upload to YouTube.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by jjulius »

GuB-42 wrote: post #88
tombert wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect they're going to soon do what Amazon did as well, where they start putting ads into the regular YouTube Premium service, and charge an extra $3 a month for a completely ad free experience. I have the family plan shared across six accounts, and it went to $26, which really isn't that much but I'm not entirely sure why they're doing it.

Why would they? The entire point of YouTube Premium is removing ads. There are a few other benefits, but being ad-free is the big one. If they put back ads, I believe that most people will simply cancel their subscription and get a renewed interest in ad-blockers. It makes more sense to just increase the price, as they do. It is not like Amazon. Most people get Amazon Prime for the "free" shipping, and Prime with ads…

>Why would they? The entire point of YouTube Premium is removing ads.

You could've easily made this argument about Hulu right before it did the exact same thing being described here.

>If they put back ads, I believe that most people will simply cancel their subscription and get a renewed interest in ad-blockers.

Doing this successfully on your smart TV is a barrier that most non-techy folk aren't going to climb over. In the case of Hulu, most people just... accepted it. Same with the Amazon Prime ads you mentioned.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by 8593376393 »

Gagarin1917 wrote: post #96
kotaKat wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You click the button to hide the card of Shorts on the home page and it just says We'll show you fewer Shorts on Home Not "no more", but "fewer". Which means you don't get a choice, YouTube will still shove them down your throat.

That’s not shoving them down anyone’s throats. If you don’t want to watch a short, don’t click on it. Just like if you don’t want to watch a video about a certain topic, you don’t click on it. Seeing that they exist is in no way an inconvenience or annoyance. You’re supposed to just watch what you want.

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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by carlosjobim »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #176
carlosjobim wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix, Disney, Paramount, cable TV, satellite TV, Twitch, etc etc It's like saying McDonalds doesn't have any competitor.

Those aren't competitors to YouTube for the sole reason that nearly anybody can upload to YouTube.

That is of no relevance to the customer/consumer. All of these companies are competing for customers of video entertainment.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by bdangubic »

carlosjobim wrote: post #179
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren't competitors to YouTube for the sole reason that nearly anybody can upload to YouTube.

That is of no relevance to the customer/consumer. All of these companies are competing for customers of video entertainment.

of course it is relevant, more relevant than just about anything else. if you are a parent or have GenA family members you know it is youtube and nothing else precisely because of user-uploaded content. tt, insta etc are severely lagging behind and are not competitors to youtube in this regard.
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