Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

bandaancha.eu

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

161–170 of 482 posts

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#161

Post by embedding-shape »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #147
embedding-shape wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd probably say that most of my early English was learnt by reading subtitles and listening to American cartoons and shows on TV while eating breakfast before school. If it was dubbed, probably once I got my first computer I'd have a way harder time understanding at least the tiny bits I did understand.

> reading subtitles So you were already reading. What about younger children? That said - I fully agree, I’m surprised I don’t speak with a Star Trek accent given where I had most of my early exposure to English.

I dunno, younger than 5-6 I think most children don't really understand plot lines or whatever anyways so it matters less, a cartoon in English is probably as fun and engaging as one in the native language.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#162

Post by calgoo »

otterley wrote: post #67
amarant wrote: post #6

Wtf? Just the other day I had chat about how stupid this is: they're blocking cloudflare to stop pirates! So half the internet goes down, but pirates just.. Don't use cloudflare anymore.. Or use a proxy... Or use tor... These policies cause nothing but collateral damage, and now apparently they've decided to cause some more of it! Good job Spain.

CloudFlare loves pirates so much that they disclose loss of DMCA safe harbor protections as a material business risk on all their SEC filings. Piracy friendliness is key to their business model. It’s a risky position that no other large-scale CDN is willing to take. Forcing piracy consumers to use Tor or other proxies is unlikely to be popular. They’ll still be used, for sure, but so long as CF makes pirated content…

But cloudflare has no issue blocking the content if they receive a court order. The issue here is that La Liga wants to be able to get content blocked because they say so, and it has to be done right now.

I also don't support these organizations that destroy the sports that people love, force you to subscribe to different services as each game and "liga" has made their own deals to make as much money as possible. Until we remove the stupid amount of money that is involved in these sport events nothing will change. And now they are talking about other events like movies, series and live entertainment show. Hopefully they come for the VPNs next and break every business VPN tunnel whenever they want. Hopefully that will cause enough backlash that they finally fix this BS once and for all.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#163

Post by lostlogin »

rwyinuse wrote: post #53

If I ever start watching football, I'll make sure to pirate every match. FIFA, La Liga, they all seem utterly rotten to me.

If you think FIFA is rotten, remember their Peace Prize.

‘Rotten’ isn’t a strong enough insult.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#164

Post by alt227 »

raincole wrote: post #92
llbbdd wrote: post #30

Assuming that "piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem" is still the prevailing wisdom, what is Spain / La Liga doing wrong that sports piracy is so prevalent as to warrant this? It seems like a no-brainer to expand stream availability and charge appropriately for it vs. scheduling daily kneecaps of other economic activity.

> "piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem" I never buy into this. If copyright law doesn't exist, pirate sites will eventually always provide better service than the official channels. One example is scanlation manga. Chinese scanlation sites have reached the theoretical ceiling of service: just serve images fast with a little nonintrusive ad. No login required. No way the official Japanese apps can provi…

When Spotify came along, music piracy all but vanished. It has already been proven in other media, it needs to happen with sports and streaming in general, then media piracy will be a thing of the past.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#165

Post by nslsm »

Pay08 wrote: post #122
adalacelove wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it has the authority. There are plenty of EU regulations that states must obey, from fundamental rights to taxation.

The question is about the authority to pass laws that only some countries need to obey. To my knowledge, the EU does not have the authority to do that.

They don't have to do anything like that. Just create a law that says no country in the EU is allowed to block sites.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#166

Post by Swizec »

mrtksn wrote: post #141
llbbdd wrote: post #30

Assuming that "piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem" is still the prevailing wisdom, what is Spain / La Liga doing wrong that sports piracy is so prevalent as to warrant this? It seems like a no-brainer to expand stream availability and charge appropriately for it vs. scheduling daily kneecaps of other economic activity.

This seems like they are aiming to increase profit margins instead of increasing the supply and decreasing the price. Considering that increasing the supply is trivial in digital products, maybe they are competing in a saturated market? Spaniards attitudes can be quite different from the American ones, Americans just pay for everything for convenience, in Spain you probably need to match the price of the IPTV to stea…

> This would mean that they need sign in 20x more Spaniards to break even with the current situation. Are there 20x more Spaniards pirating the LaLiga than paying? Even in Spain I don’t think so.

Is it possible the product just isn’t worth the price they want to charge? Entirely likely.

On average at population scale, people are shockingly good at voting with their wallets.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#167

Post by wiml »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #4

File "selling out your country's communication infrastructure to people filming other people kicking a ball around" under things science fiction writers failed to predict about capitalist dystopias.

You may enjoy the 1952 novel The Space Merchants by Pohl & Kornbluth.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#168

Post by embedding-shape »

nradov wrote: post #125
embedding-shape wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, sure, as mentioned, I agree with that it's fucking stupid, but when someone complains about that, while referring to "quality of life" in a place which more depends on other things, it's worth to zoom out a bit and gain some perspective, which was frankly missing in the comment I was responding to.

Nah, I didn't miss anything. I've spent enough time in the EU (including the poorer parts that most tourists don't visit) to have a crystal clear perspective on the real situation.

Yeah, no sure, generalizing "the reality of living and working under an oppressive bureaucratic state" across the EU because specifically Cloudflare being unavailable in Spain for couple of hours a week is totally a nuanced, measured and accurate take and representation of how it is to live and work in the EU in 2026.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#169

Post by loloquwowndueo »

embedding-shape wrote: post #161
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> reading subtitles So you were already reading. What about younger children? That said - I fully agree, I’m surprised I don’t speak with a Star Trek accent given where I had most of my early exposure to English.

I dunno, younger than 5-6 I think most children don't really understand plot lines or whatever anyways so it matters less, a cartoon in English is probably as fun and engaging as one in the native language.

> younger than 5-6 I think most children don't really understand plot lines or whatever

My experience has been the opposite :) but hey.

Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times

#170

Post by numpad0 »

tverbeure wrote: post #88
Paratoner wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood this attitude from native speakers towards their own language. I am a fresh NL citizen, and have struggled SO MUCH to assimilate into society largely due to this prevalent mentality of "dutch sux actually, we can all speak english amirite guys??" its so bafflingly self-destructive to your own culture. But go off I guess.

You've probably never watched Indiana Jones speak French... I was forced to when staying for 2 weeks in the south of Belgium as part of a French immersion program. It's unbearable. When I watch an American movie, I want to hear it the way the director intended it to be. I don't want every villain in every movie have the same voice. If I want to hear Dutch in a movie, I watch a Dutch movie. It's not that deep. The fac…

I don't think that generalize to dubs as concept itself, I know for the fact that Japanese dub of Commando(1985)[1] is quite something.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commando_(1985_film)

Post reply on HN