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Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by pjmorris »

strickinato wrote: post #60

I can't more highly recommend this book for getting into the headspace of the era a lot of these recordings. 11 chapters about DIY / Punk / Hardcore bands of the 1980s underground scene. (The audiobook in particular is fun as it's read by musicians influenced by the artists in their respective chapters) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life

Seconded. This was a great read, and led me to a lot of great listening. And some wondering about how far Minutemen would've went if D. Boon hadn't passed so early.

I also think there's a lot to learn from the book about DIY for any startup or community organizer.

Lastly, if you read and you want to learn more about 'The Replacements', 'Trouble Boys', Bob Mehr, is a terrific read.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by tempaccount5050 »

999900000999 wrote: post #89
tempaccount5050 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree mostly but take issue with "not needing managers". As someone who went from split shows to big venues to touring, managers (good ones) are a godsend. Will there be convenient parking? Do they have adequate power? Is the stage big enough? Do we need to book sound? Is there a weather contingency? Where can we sleep? What time is load in? What time is sound check? What form of payment? How will they be advertisi…

I assumed managers in this context, meant the record industry machine. Most bands don’t care if you find a bootleg of a live recording, it’s going to be a very different experience versus an actual album anyway.

Well that would be legal/contractual stuff you signed with the label. Doesn't have anything to do with managers, which was why I wasn't really sure what parent was saying.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by ilamont »

petetnt wrote: post #30
lokar wrote: post #18

Tangent idea: musicians should record every live show, and then put it on a streaming service, only for people who bought tickets to the show (possibly for an extra small fee on the ticket). Extra revenue for the artist, and a cool benefit for the fan (the liver performance you attended).

Fugazi released almost 900 shows on CD in the early 2000’s, costing 5 bucks a piece. Some of them are available on their Bandcamp page these days too https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/ .

Not only that, you can listen to many of them for free from the Fugazi online concert archive: https://dischord.com/fugazi_live_series

(See my comment upthread about Fugazi and the unexpected encounter with Ian MacKaye after I stumbled upon an obscure YouTube recording)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47769059

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by lordfosco »

lokar wrote: post #18

Tangent idea: musicians should record every live show, and then put it on a streaming service, only for people who bought tickets to the show (possibly for an extra small fee on the ticket). Extra revenue for the artist, and a cool benefit for the fan (the liver performance you attended).

There was a German startup called Bleecker Street [1] about a decade ago that did exactly that. They toured with artists like Chris Rea, Simple Minds, and Mark Knopfler, tapping directly into the FOH desk at each venue. They would mix the audio live, even adding the ambient noise of the crowd to capture the live feeling.

Right after the show, you could buy fancy looking USB sticks, designed with unique elements of the artists, pre-loaded with the recording of the set you had just heard.

I still have a guitar-shaped USB stick from a Mark Knopfler show at a small venue in a tiny town in southern Germany. Honestly, it’s a far better souvenir than any picture I could have taken.

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20150205231438/http://www.bleeck...

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Post by jjulius »

rigonkulous wrote: post #50

I am an active and enthusiastic recordist and have decades of stuff I've accumulated over the years. One of the concerts I captured in the 90's, lives on as a bootleg which I often see around the scene of this one particularly great live electronic dance band, whose punters have created true value out of the hour and a half of live concert input I managed to record, standing right there front stage and center, with t…

As a huge fan of the type of music you're probably describing, I'd love to know what artist/recording you're referring to here. Surely with the band's blessing and ~30 years of time passed, it'd be okay to divulge...

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Post by MilkLizard »

lokar wrote: post #18

Tangent idea: musicians should record every live show, and then put it on a streaming service, only for people who bought tickets to the show (possibly for an extra small fee on the ticket). Extra revenue for the artist, and a cool benefit for the fan (the liver performance you attended).

Metallica does or did this. I still have some mp3 of the shows I saw years ago.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by dfxm12 »

ilamont wrote: post #90

On the afternoon of October 6 1989 I attended a Fugazi concert in Cambridge Mass, probably one of the best live shows I've ever seen. Last year I casually searched YouTube for some shows I had attended in my youth and this one popped up, recorded by a high school classmate who happened to be there, filming from the side from a balcony or rope rack used by stagehands. I then went to the Fugazi Live Series archive to s…

What's your blog?

Minor Threat was before my time, but I've seen Fugazi and The Evens a few times. Ian always puts on a great show. He seems like a really thoughtful, detail oriented guy. I'm not surprised that he keeps organized archives or that he found the time to respond.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by ilamont »

dfxm12 wrote: post #98
ilamont wrote: post #90

On the afternoon of October 6 1989 I attended a Fugazi concert in Cambridge Mass, probably one of the best live shows I've ever seen. Last year I casually searched YouTube for some shows I had attended in my youth and this one popped up, recorded by a high school classmate who happened to be there, filming from the side from a balcony or rope rack used by stagehands. I then went to the Fugazi Live Series archive to s…

What's your blog? Minor Threat was before my time, but I've seen Fugazi and The Evens a few times. Ian always puts on a great show. He seems like a really thoughtful, detail oriented guy. I'm not surprised that he keeps organized archives or that he found the time to respond.

My blog is related to my genealogy business, not music. But the story about archiving old audio and video is relevant to the struggle of many genealogists to preserve old media, a frequent topic on the blog:

https://easygenie.org/search?q=media&options%5Bprefix%5D=las...

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