This is what we call throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times
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#32File "selling out your country's communication infrastructure to people filming other people kicking a ball around" under things science fiction writers failed to predict about capitalist dystopias.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Context, a few days ago, this was a very popular article on HN: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47738883 TL;DR: Spain blocks A LOT of CDNs during footy matches, including ALL of Cloudflare, thus breaking most of the internet. All in the name of stopping "pirates".
I wonder how close they are in broad economic damage to it being cheaper to just pay FIFA or whomever for some kind of nationwide viewing license (which they'd surely be able to negotiate way lower than a simple "cost to view every match, times count of Spanish residents" since that's nowhere near as much as they're getting out of Spain now)
That's effectively how it was in European countries, when TV was nationalised. Then everything became about extracting as much money as possible from consumers, and here we are.
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#34Assuming that "piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem" is still the prevailing wisdom, what is Spain / La Liga doing wrong that sports piracy is so prevalent as to warrant this? It seems like a no-brainer to expand stream availability and charge appropriately for it vs. scheduling daily kneecaps of other economic activity.
LaLiga has the same kind of attitude and culture as the RIAA. Interpret their words and actions accordingly.
Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times
#35So what does this mean in english?
See this story from 2 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47738883 Basically, to combat pirate streaming of football matches, La Liga (the Spanish football association) can compel Spanish ISPs to block wide ranges of IP blocks that are suspected of hosting those streams. This includes Cloudflare, which - due to lots of websites depending on them (see what happened when they went down last year: https://blo…
I wonder when businesses will start suing ISPs for the losses they incur while they're cut off from half the internet.
Re: Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies broadcasting times
#36At what point does spanish internet become too unreliable? There was a thread the other day about someone's CI jobs failing due too this.
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#37It's always hilarious to see HN users claim how the "quality of life" is so much better in the EU than the USA. When in reality most of them only ever visit a handful of EU first-tier cities for short vacations or business trips, and never have to deal with the reality of living and working under an oppressive bureaucratic state.
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#38It's always hilarious to see HN users claim how the "quality of life" is so much better in the EU than the USA. When in reality most of them only ever visit a handful of EU first-tier cities for short vacations or business trips, and never have to deal with the reality of living and working under an oppressive bureaucratic state.
I'd trade "not being able to access Cloudflare-websites for some hours per week" over "My neighbors can't afford healthcare, there is no public transport for anyone nor can I walk to a cafe on the other side of town", but we all have different priorities :)
Don't get me wrong, it sucks, makes no sense and I hate the responsible people for it, but in the grand scheme of things, Spain does have a higher quality of life than so many other places out in the world, most important, way higher than the country you're comparing it to, on almost any useful metric.
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#39Can Spaniards work around this with a VPN? I know that causes other issues though.
To what degree is it feasible for a startup to move around in Europe? This is the sort of heavy-handed, tech-illiterate, authoritarian activity that might make me seriously consider moving my infrastructure or headquarters if I was a Spanish startup.
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#40It's always hilarious to see HN users claim how the "quality of life" is so much better in the EU than the USA. When in reality most of them only ever visit a handful of EU first-tier cities for short vacations or business trips, and never have to deal with the reality of living and working under an oppressive bureaucratic state.
> never have to deal with the reality of living and working under an oppressive bureaucratic state.
I see that you have never had to deal with the US government.