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Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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That’s what made big tech big - one giant tracking operation. Trawler style - dolphins be damned

This report relies on several year old technology on our part, our more cutting systems are a few years beyond SOTA, and I can there's a lot more under the surface.

Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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These greedy corporations spy on us. Our data is valueable to them. When someone spies on you, it means they do not trust you. That means we should not trust them either. It's not just merely these giant corporations though. I think the whole business model is broken, if they need to spy on people in order to milk out more profit. One big glaring weakness is ... the browser. I think we need to find a solution here. C…

So this is the first audit in our Global Privacy Audit, we're going to keep going. California was the warm up, we're going world-wide with this, our technology scales 1:1 with theirs.

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Why wouldn't they? There seems to be no real consequences for these huge corporations, and all of the potential profit incentives.

Execs are paid in stock, the only consequence that would matter is missing revenue projections for 2 quarters in a row, that's yet to happen.

Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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Hi, I'm Dr Tim Libert, founder of webXray who did this audit. Happy to answer questions from YC'ers. [Note, stepping away for some mental health exercise, stressful day!] I also want to push back on Google telling the press our California Privacy Audit is "is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how [Google's] products work". I'm the former head of Cookie Compliance at Google and I have the federal court filing…

> I'm the former head of Cookie Compliance If the Internet didn't turn out the way it turned out, this could have been the greatest job ever.

Being the best in the world at what you do and not being allowed to do it is...not the greatest job. ;-)

Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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post #53

Why wouldn't they? There seems to be no real consequences for these huge corporations, and all of the potential profit incentives.

Execs are paid in stock, the only consequence that would matter is missing revenue projections for 2 quarters in a row, that's yet to happen.

Wells Fargo finally took a dive this quarter - we’ll see what happens.

Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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great works! hope this gets more attention soon. Unfortunately I do not care for the graphic at the top of article (that casual readers will be impressed by) since it conflates spiritual imagery with spying.. People with little education in either easily conflate the two.. People who are hostile to spiritual topics can quickly amplify the vilification of it.. so, please consider not using that kind of symbol in media…

That's their decision, our report is very factually designed: https://globalprivacyaudit.org

Re: Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The report is specifically ads cookies and includes links to primary source disclosures on the websites of the companies mentioned. We did not count things like DDoS cookies, login tokens, and the like. We operate with unparalleled precision in our domain.

I'm curious why this was downvoted--I'm not complaining or trying to go against HN guidelines; I'm genuinely unclear as to why the first-party source for the article clarifying the question in GP was marked dead. Bad actors? Misinterpretation? Other?

No idea, I thought it was a valid question and we go to great lengths in our methodology for this reason. The audits we supply for enterprise are highly specific as to cookie purpose for this reason: https://webxray.ai

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I always opt out if given the option and if not given the option I click x and close the site. However, unfortunately, I have assumed that they are already tracking me when the pop-up hits. This kinda confirms that is true. We have 'get tough on X, Y, Z' things that don't impact me at all. You can dial 911 if someone assaults you in the US, but I don't know of a single resource to get law enforcement involved when I…

The only reason I ever click reject is to open the devtools and count the ads cookies still set. I managed to turn that hobby into https://webxray.ai as a business.

There may be an opportunity here for a plugin that auto-reports violations in some way that can then be used in lawsuits against these companies. Obviously there are privacy concerns with something like this but there may be ways to anonymize the data or otherwise preserve privacy meaningfully. There is 'company X is doing bad thing' and 'company X did bad thing, provably, this many times to these people'.
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