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Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by HappMacDonald »

CoffeeOnWrite wrote: post #23
kkkqkqkqkqlqlql wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you really want to share it, how about torrenting it?

IA makes the most sense in the spirit of preservation. Etree ( https://www.etree.org/ ) is the longest running torrent site for tapes. It looks like only about 5% of the hundred thousand torrents have any seeders at all. Not sure how reliable requesting a seed is. I’d expect long tail stuff to get “effectively lost”. Versus IA whose purpose and funding is preservation, in addition to sharing.

Etree is missing self-seed then. What if IA hosted torrents like Etree does but also self-seeded the content?

Thus they are encouraging amateur third parties to pick up some of the archival slack, that style of torrent could outlive IA in case anything happened to them, and it reduces some of their bandwidth costs

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by bilekas »

I have my worries about Internet Archive more and more recently.

I'm wondering though is there any decentralized IPFS or P2P Archive of the entire archive that can be helped with for preservation ?

https://www.wired.com/story/the-internets-most-powerful-arch...

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by epiccoleman »

lokar wrote: post #44
ClifReeder wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very much a among jam bands - see https://www.nugs.net/

That looks like just a subscription thing, right? I saw David Byrne last week, during checkout for the ticket I would probably have paid an extra $10 to get access to the recording of that show.

It's not just a subscription thing, you can purchase individual shows ala bandcamp too.

But yeah, jam bands have really embraced this more than any other category of artist - it's quite common even among low-mid tier jam bands that every single show ends up on Nugs. These bands are often pretty friendly to recordists too (a recent show I was at has two recordings on the IA as well as the Nugs version. Everyone's happy!)

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by frereubu »

alsetmusic wrote: post #10

This is one of the best things I've read about in a bit. It wasn't uncommon to buy marked-up (overpriced) bootlegs of live performances on CDs in the 90s. You never knew in advance if it'd be a quality recording or total garbage. We've lost that. I still love when one of my live bootlegs of Faith No More comes on with them doing (sometimes mocking) parodies of popular music (their rendition of Nothing Compares to You…

> You never knew in advance if it'd be a quality recording or total garbage.

I once bought a VHS recording of a Lemonheads gig after seeing them at the Glastonbury festival, guess it must have been around 1993, and in visual terms it was absolutely unwatchable - the camera wasn't still for a second - but probably pretty representative of what it was like to be there.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by erickhill »

rigonkulous wrote: post #50

I am an active and enthusiastic recordist and have decades of stuff I've accumulated over the years. One of the concerts I captured in the 90's, lives on as a bootleg which I often see around the scene of this one particularly great live electronic dance band, whose punters have created true value out of the hour and a half of live concert input I managed to record, standing right there front stage and center, with t…

I loved reading this with the still built-in caginess around all the identifying details. Just in case!

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by maweaver »

lokar wrote: post #43
xd1936 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Available for everyone to purchase*, not just the local venue ticket holders.

I think (I could be wrong), that relatively few people would value the recordings from every show on a tour. But, many more people would value somewhat exclusive access to the recording for a show they attended in person.

As someone else mentioned above, with jam bands each performance is unique, and people definitely value getting access to every show. For bands repeating the same set as identically as possible on a tour, not sure how much it matters which performance you listen to. Although some people might be into it, for the "I was there" novelty factor.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by sdellis »

bilekas wrote: post #52

I have my worries about Internet Archive more and more recently. I'm wondering though is there any decentralized IPFS or P2P Archive of the entire archive that can be helped with for preservation ? https://www.wired.com/story/the-internets-most-powerful-arch...

According to the Wikipedia page, it seems that copies of the archive are stored around the world.

LOCKSS is a decentralized strategy for preservation which includes archival copies at remote sites. It has been in use for a very long time. I feel like preservation via IPFS would introduce quite a bit of risk to the goal.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by adfm »

tclancy wrote: post #4

Source article is more enjoyable http://blockclubchicago.org/2026/04/10/from-early-nirvana-to...

Here’s an article about The Sacramento Music Archive that’s also worth checking out.

https://www.kqed.org/arts/13979518/sacramento-music-archive-...

Go out and support your local live music scene.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by strickinato »

I can't more highly recommend this book for getting into the headspace of the era a lot of these recordings.

11 chapters about DIY / Punk / Hardcore bands of the 1980s underground scene.

(The audiobook in particular is fun as it's read by musicians influenced by the artists in their respective chapters)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Band_Could_Be_Your_Life

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