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Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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To the author: please use a darker font. Preferably black. I’m only in my 40’s, I don’t require glasses (yet) and I have to actively squint to read your site on mobile. Safari, iPhone. I’m pretty sure you’re under the permitted contrast levels under WCAG.

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, cycling a couple of terabytes of data over a 512GB drive is at least full 4 writes, which is too much for that kind of thing. > more ISPs need to improve upload. I was yelling the same things to the void for the longest time, then I had a brilliant idea of reading the technical specs of the technology coming to my home. Lo and behold, the numbers I got were the technical limits of the technology that I had at…

4 writes out of what, 3000? For something you'll need to do once or twice ever? It's fine. You might not even eat your whole Drive Write Per Day quota for the upload duration, let alone the entire month. > the technical limits of the technology that I had at home (PON for the time being) Isn't that usually symmetrical? Is yours not?

> 4 writes out of what, 3000?

Depends on your device capacity and how much is in actual use. Wear leveling things also wear things while it moves things around.

> For something you'll need to do once or twice ever?

I don't know you, but my cloud storage is living, and even if it's not living, if the software can't smartly ignore files, it'll pull everything in, compare and pass without uploading, causing churns in every backup cycle.

> Isn't that usually symmetrical? Is yours not?

GPON (Gigabit PON) is asymmetric. Theoretical limits is 2.4Gbps down, 1.2Gbps up. I have 1000Mbit/75Mbit at home.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #20

To the author: please use a darker font. Preferably black. I’m only in my 40’s, I don’t require glasses (yet) and I have to actively squint to read your site on mobile. Safari, iPhone. I’m pretty sure you’re under the permitted contrast levels under WCAG.

On my android phone it's perfectly legible. Moving my phone away it's only a tiny bit worse than HN.

Is this maybe a pixel density of iphone issue?

I wouldn't mind a darker and higher weight font though.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Ultimately the author is ranting about something that is likely an unintended bug where some update along the line reset the default exclusions list.

It almost seems like they’re taking it personally as some kind of intentionally slight against them.

Most users would not want Backblaze to back up other cloud synced directories. This default is sensible.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #20

To the author: please use a darker font. Preferably black. I’m only in my 40’s, I don’t require glasses (yet) and I have to actively squint to read your site on mobile. Safari, iPhone. I’m pretty sure you’re under the permitted contrast levels under WCAG.

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, cycling a couple of terabytes of data over a 512GB drive is at least full 4 writes, which is too much for that kind of thing. > more ISPs need to improve upload. I was yelling the same things to the void for the longest time, then I had a brilliant idea of reading the technical specs of the technology coming to my home. Lo and behold, the numbers I got were the technical limits of the technology that I had at…

4 writes out of what, 3000? For something you'll need to do once or twice ever? It's fine. You might not even eat your whole Drive Write Per Day quota for the upload duration, let alone the entire month. > the technical limits of the technology that I had at home (PON for the time being) Isn't that usually symmetrical? Is yours not?

How do you know how often those files need to be backed up without reading them? Timestamps and sizes are not reliable, only content hashes. How do you get a content hash? You read the file.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a clear signal that the marketing/financial teams have taken over the businesses Or that they're targeting the mass retail market, where people are technically ignorant, and "unlimited" is required to compete. And statistically-speaking, is viable as long as a company keeps its users to a normal distribution.

Is there an example of a consumer facing SaaS that's been able to handle the "unlimited" in a way you'd consider positive?

Google and Youtube, especially Youtube.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #179

The issue with a client app backing up dropbox and onedrive folders on your computer is the files on demand feature, you could sync a 1tb onedrive to your 250gb laptop but it's OK because of smart/selective sync aka files on demand. Then backblaze backup tries to back the folder up and requests a download of every single file and now you have zero bytes free, still no backup and a sick laptop. You could oauth the bac…

That doesn't really make a lot of sense, though. Reading a file that's not actually on disk doesn't download it permanently. If I have zero of 10TB worth of files stored locally on my 1TB device, read them all serially, and measure my disk usage, there's no reason the disk should be full, or at least it should be cache that can be easily freed. The only time this is potentially a problem is if one of the files exceeds the total disk space available.

Hell, if I open a directory of photos and my OS tries to pull exif data for each one, it would be wild if that caused those files to be fully downloaded and consume disk space.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a complexity that makes it harder, but not insurmountable. It would be reasonable to say that if you run the file sync in a mode that keeps everything locally, then Backblaze should be backing it up. Arguably they should even when not in that mode, but it'll churn files repeatedly as you stream files in and out of local storage with the cloud provider.

> Arguably they should even when not in that mode, but it'll churn files repeatedly as you stream files in and out of local storage with the cloud provider. When you have a couple terabytes of data in that drive, is it acceptable to cycle all that data and use all that bandwidth and wear down your SSD at the same time? Also, high number of small files is a problem for these services. I have a large font collection in…

Then do it in memory, assuming those services allow you to read the files like that. It sounds like they do based on your other comments.
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