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Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by mijoharas »

palata wrote: post #157
mijoharas wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What cloud backend are people using for restic? B2/S3/something else? I'm still just backing up to other machines using it (though I'd also heavily recommend restic)

I run restic with rclone, which is not only compatible with S3-like storage (which include many, like Hetzner, OVH, Exoscale) but many others, from mega to pcloud through Google Drive. For stuff I care about (mostly photos), I back them up on two different services. I don't have TBs of those, so it's not very expensive. My personal code I store on git repositories anyway (like SourceHut or Codeberg or sometimes GitHu…

Yep, I was wondering which services people would recommend. I had been thinking about B2, I just haven't prioritised it.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by lizknope »

solarkraft wrote: post #49

So what are HN’s favorite alternatives? Preferably cheap and rclone compatible. Hetzner storagebox sounds good, what about S3 or Glacier-like options?

The cheapest is a computer at a relative or friend's house. I have my backup server at my parents house. We both have gigabit fiber so it works well.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by myself248 »

Jolter wrote: post #62
dwayne_dibley wrote: post #50

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LONG PRESS????!?! you legend. How does one find these things out.

Like this, by word of mouth. That’s how Apple has done UI design since they stopped printing paper manuals. - ctrl-shift-. to show hidden files on macOS - pull down to see search box (iOS 18) - swipe from top right corner for flashlight button - swipe up from lower middle for home screen Etc, etc

It's so intuitive, how could I have missed that?

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

hiisukun wrote: post #176

I think the target of the anger here should be (at least in part): OneDrive. My understanding is that a modern, default onedrive setup will push all your onedrive folder contents to the cloud, but will not do the same in reverse -- it's totally possible to have files in your cloud onedrive, visible in your onedrive folder, but that do not exist locally. If you want to access such a file, it typically gets downloaded…

Most have pointed out that the OneDrive exclusion makes sense due to its complexity. But I see no one here defending the undocumented .git exclusion. That’s pretty egregious - if I’m backing up that directory it’s always 100% intentional and it definitely feels like a sacrifice to the product functionality for stability and performance. Not documenting it just twists the knife.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by Dylan16807 »

baq wrote: post #91
JLCarveth wrote: post #69

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> Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage.

if I can't read TFA because of its formatting it isn't tangential

Worst case scenario you copy the text out. It's worth complaining sometimes, but yes it's tangential.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by dboreham »

hypercube33 wrote: post #107
littlecranky67 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most home broadband providers offer unlimited network traffic.

If they limit the rate of speed it's technically limited which really makes me wonder how they legally can say these things. I guess it means in a lot of cases it's like Comcast where they also limit the data a month perhaps but dang.

In the language of marketing (in the USA at least) the word "unlimited" means "limited".

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by benjiro3000 »

klausa wrote: post #136
willis936 wrote: post #108

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Do you have any more details? This is a pretty big deal. The differentiators between Backblaze and Hetzner mostly boil down to this kind of thing supposedly not being possible.

I’m on my phone so forgive the formatting, but here’s my entire support exchange: - - - Hey, I tried restoring a file from my backup — downloading it directly didn't work, and creating a restore with it also failed – I got an email telling me contract y'all about it. Can you explain to me what happened here, and what can I do to get my file(s?) back? - - - Hi Jan, Thanks for writing in! I've reached out to our engine…

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by Dylan16807 »

willis936 wrote: post #102
littlecranky67 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most home broadband providers offer unlimited network traffic.

And they have the necessary pipes to serve the rate they sell you 24/7. Nobody has turned the moon into a hard drive yet.

> Nobody has turned the moon into a hard drive yet.

Not important here because backblaze only has to match the storage of your single device. Plus some extra versions but one year multiplied by upload speed is also a tractable amount.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by danpalmer »

Neil44 wrote: post #179

The issue with a client app backing up dropbox and onedrive folders on your computer is the files on demand feature, you could sync a 1tb onedrive to your 250gb laptop but it's OK because of smart/selective sync aka files on demand. Then backblaze backup tries to back the folder up and requests a download of every single file and now you have zero bytes free, still no backup and a sick laptop. You could oauth the bac…

This is a complexity that makes it harder, but not insurmountable.

It would be reasonable to say that if you run the file sync in a mode that keeps everything locally, then Backblaze should be backing it up. Arguably they should even when not in that mode, but it'll churn files repeatedly as you stream files in and out of local storage with the cloud provider.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Post by SomeHacker44 »

ricardobeat wrote: post #121
azalemeth wrote: post #54

I guess the problem with Backblaze's business model with respect to Backblaze Personal is that it is "unlimited". They specifically exclude linux users because, well, we're nerds, r/datahoarders exists, and we have different ideas about what "unlimited" means. [1] This is another example in disguise of two people disagreeing about what "unlimited" means in the context of backup, even if they do claim to have "no rest…

It’s funny that the same person asking for linux support would complain about B2 “not being for home users”. I sync my own backups to B2 and would set that up over installing linux any day of the week! It’s extremely easy.

What software/workflow do you use for this Linux to B2 backup please?
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