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Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

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Post by saturnite »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #40
zythyx wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

The last time I was involved in a thread like this, I was banned from r/plex. I pointed out that Plex should do ebooks. It is a natural fit. They keep track of how far in a series or a show you are, they could keep track of where you are in a book. Many of the Plex idioms transfer well. It has a clear visual style that helps you to pick out the shows you might try, or shows like those you've already watched. BUT IT'S…

An even easier fit would be comic books. They already let you steam libraries of photos. I have never used that feature, but I would definitely stream some comics.

Also, they could handle audiobooks since they already stream music.

Instead, they want to sell me on streaming services when I started using Plex because I pirate my media.

I do see one issue with books that other media doesn't have. That is the ability to interact. When I use my e-reader, I like features like highlighting, taking notes, dictionaries, and other features that are more complicated that just streaming rendered images from a book.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#52

Post by saturnite »

necessary wrote: post #39
zythyx wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

Here's an easy one: working downloads on mobile. Plex offline downloads are notoriously buggy.

I don't even consider it an option anymore. I just turn to other software that sends the original file to me. It would be great to have Plex transcode my high res movies on the fly and send me smaller copies tailored for my device. I could save space on my mobile devices while having my progress synced back to Plex.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#53

Post by QGQBGdeZREunxLe »

zythyx wrote: post #26
tengbretson wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plex could reverse this trend in a week if they decided to prioritize work on any feature that their core market actually wanted.

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

* IPTV support (xtream codes etc.) yes proxies exist like Dispatcharr but first class support would be better

* Better iOS/tvOS/OSX video playback (just buy Infuse because it can play so many titles the Plex player cannot)

* Add full context menus everywhere. Playlists are virtually useless for anything other than playback in order or randomly. Why can't I multi-select items on a playlist and move them to another playlist?

* Subtitle settings turn off between episodes

* Let me sort by file size so I can watch the disk gobbling files first

Thank God for python-plexapi and a bunch of scripts I use to organize an unwieldy library.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#54

Post by OuterVale »

I built a little Jellyfin plugin for KOReader [1] so I can access my books from my Kindle. Jellyfin proved really nice to work with (though there was some poorly documented auth stuff they were in the process of deprecating).

If anyone has been thinking of building something in the Jellyfin ecosystem, I very much recommend it.

[1]: https://github.com/DeclanChidlow/KOReader-Jellyfin-Plugin/

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#55

Post by notpushkin »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #50
random_human_ wrote: post #48

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For whatever reason people here and on Reddit will tell you that you need to have Jellyfin pass through five VPNs, otherwise nasty things will happen. Meanwhile the actual devs suggests simply setting up a reverse proxy, which you can do in two lines with Caddy: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/post-install/networking/re...

Reverse proxy itself will do barely any defense, what you need in combination is an authgate (authentik, authelia), and here we are moving from "simple reverse proxy" to fun weekend activity and then some getting it to work as expected. + it kills the app auth flow, so only web interface is suitable for this.

> Reverse proxy itself will do barely any defense, what you need in combination is an authgate

What’s your threat model?

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#56

Post by MaxikCZ »

notpushkin wrote: post #55
MaxikCZ wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reverse proxy itself will do barely any defense, what you need in combination is an authgate (authentik, authelia), and here we are moving from "simple reverse proxy" to fun weekend activity and then some getting it to work as expected. + it kills the app auth flow, so only web interface is suitable for this.

> Reverse proxy itself will do barely any defense, what you need in combination is an authgate What’s your threat model?

Same as anyones: random bots scanning IP/ports to find established services and trying exploits from the book.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

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Post by random_human_ »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #56
notpushkin wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reverse proxy itself will do barely any defense, what you need in combination is an authgate What’s your threat model?

Same as anyones: random bots scanning IP/ports to find established services and trying exploits from the book.

If you expose Jellyfin on 443, have HTTPS properly set up (which Caddy handles automatically), your admin password is not pswd1234 (or you straight up disable remote admin logins), and use a cheap .com domain rather than your IP--what is the actual attack surface in that case?

As far as I can remember that is more or less what is usually suggested by Jellyfin's devs, and I have yet to see something that convinces me about its inadequacy.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#58

Post by ZeWaka »

lamasery wrote: post #18
nerptastic wrote: post #12

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Agreed. I honestly chose Jellyfin over plex because I preferred the branding, not sure what I’m missing. I really enjoy Jellyfin, and thy seemingly have support for most devices in some way. My GF has it set up on her iPad, phone, computer. App is on our TV and has no issues. We have Netflix at home. She’s non technical and hasn’t had any trouble once I gave her a login. The only hiccup was when she tried to watch du…

> The only hiccup was when she tried to watch during one of her lectures. I had to explain that Jellyfin is only at home ;) (for now) Tailscale got me outside-the-home Jellyfin with a grand total of maybe 30 minutes of effort, including signing up, getting my server connected, and getting it on my MacBook, AppleTV, and phone. I'd never used it before.

Combine with a $5 VPS and nginix reverse proxy to make this true for any device, even ones without tailscale!

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#59

Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

saturnite wrote: post #51
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last time I was involved in a thread like this, I was banned from r/plex. I pointed out that Plex should do ebooks. It is a natural fit. They keep track of how far in a series or a show you are, they could keep track of where you are in a book. Many of the Plex idioms transfer well. It has a clear visual style that helps you to pick out the shows you might try, or shows like those you've already watched. BUT IT'S…

An even easier fit would be comic books. They already let you steam libraries of photos. I have never used that feature, but I would definitely stream some comics. Also, they could handle audiobooks since they already stream music. Instead, they want to sell me on streaming services when I started using Plex because I pirate my media. I do see one issue with books that other media doesn't have. That is the ability to…

>An even easier fit would be comic books.

That's just a book format issue, but I'm on board.

>They already let you steam libraries of photos.

Well, about that... they're kind of shit at it. Photos have always been their least favorite supported media. Not much in the way of metadata support, unable to organize them. But it brings me to another problem... they don't understand what media types are.

They support audio, but call it music. This means, just for instance, that there's a shitty icon for the library... I made a comedy album library, Plex. Steve Martin the banjo player and Steven Martin the comedian are the same human, but I don't want one album recommended as related to the other. And I don't want to see the little music note icon for the library either. Think of audio as "audio that can have many types" rather than music. It's the same with images... what if I want to have a library full of van Gogh's works? Why are you trying to mix these in with pictures of my nieces?

>Also, they could handle audiobooks since they already stream music.

But they can't, not really. Because they think all audio is music, their interface doesn't handle it... no one wants to randomize the play order of the chapters of a book. And they'd actually like to keep a bookmark of where they stopped listening. But because "all audio is music" their model is fundamentally broken.

>When I use my e-reader, I like features like highlighting, taking notes, dictionaries, and other features that are more complicated that just streaming rendered images from a book.

Well, if they implemented it correctly, it wouldn't be exactly "streaming images from a book". And they already do stuff with related media in a sophisticated fashion. If you want to see the trailers and making-ofs for a a movie, those are available right from the menu. Dictionaries or highlighting or note-taking just isn't that big of a deal. They could do it, they don't want to. They'd rather be a streaming service.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#60

Post by Mashimo »

random_human_ wrote: post #57
MaxikCZ wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same as anyones: random bots scanning IP/ports to find established services and trying exploits from the book.

If you expose Jellyfin on 443, have HTTPS properly set up (which Caddy handles automatically), your admin password is not pswd1234 (or you straight up disable remote admin logins), and use a cheap .com domain rather than your IP--what is the actual attack surface in that case? As far as I can remember that is more or less what is usually suggested by Jellyfin's devs, and I have yet to see something that convinces me…

He claims there are known exploits. Though I also want to know if this is really true.
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