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Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#21

Noticed that Jellyfin had inched out Plex when sorting by popularity on the TrueNAS app catalogue the other day (45,178 installs vs Plex's 42,225). The existance of this project seems to confirm that the dev ecosystem around it is getting stronger!

Can anyone comment on the security of Jellyfin? When I had last looked into it, it seemed like Jellyfin had a somewhat weak security model that made me question switching family members to it from Plex.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

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Jellyfin is great in that it just works. I managed to install it on Samsung TV with Tizen OS and it has been just solid experience for many years now.

I gave Jellyfin up and went back to upnp/dlna after the Android and iOS clients would keep losing sync, or wouldn't show me some season of a show, or would pick a white background on white text for a show.

The pain just kept adding up. It was quite nice most of the time. But every single time I reached for my phone, I was wondering how badly it was going to go. Quitting Jellyfin seemed like an excellent choice.

Upnp/dlna is much cruder; very direct raw BubbleUPnP client. But it works so well for me. Their transcoding server also is quite good and I can run it on any machine I want, isn't coupled to anything, can switch between them easily.

Bubbleupnp is also great because it lets me turn tablets into cast screens. I love that so much. Good general protocols rock; having media server, media renderer, then separate control points was a great model, good job UPnP.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#23

Noticed that Jellyfin had inched out Plex when sorting by popularity on the TrueNAS app catalogue the other day (45,178 installs vs Plex's 42,225). The existance of this project seems to confirm that the dev ecosystem around it is getting stronger!

Plex could reverse this trend in a week if they decided to prioritize work on any feature that their core market actually wanted.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

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post #11

Jellyfin is great in that it just works. I managed to install it on Samsung TV with Tizen OS and it has been just solid experience for many years now.

Heh, I just spent 15 minutes debugging a Jellyfin bug where my WebOS client thought that the startup wizard had not been completed yet (I tried restarting it several times, but the thing that did the trick was enabling debug logging and _then_ it started working properly--probably a coincidence). Jellyfin is the best in class, but the bar is in hell. It can't be run in any kind of a high availability configuration, so if your only instance goes down or has any kind of issue, you have to jump on and fix it immediately or you can't use it. When something goes wrong, some of the logs show up in stderr, but most are just written as plain files to a directory. It's free software, so you get what you pay for, but it's pretty buggy.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#25

Forced server transcoding for everything. Ouch. Thought maybe at least mpeg2 or something would play directly.

Intel ARC 380's are ideal at 4k realtime transcoded streams. And theyre cheap as well.

You could probably do a sticky round robin reverse proxy with a few backends doing transcode.

The biggest issue is bandwidth, but you probably knew that.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#26

Noticed that Jellyfin had inched out Plex when sorting by popularity on the TrueNAS app catalogue the other day (45,178 installs vs Plex's 42,225). The existance of this project seems to confirm that the dev ecosystem around it is getting stronger!

Plex could reverse this trend in a week if they decided to prioritize work on any feature that their core market actually wanted.

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plex could reverse this trend in a week if they decided to prioritize work on any feature that their core market actually wanted.

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

The poster you're asking this to is probably talking about plug-ins. Plex, very long ago, supported plug-ins, but it no longer does. Plug-ins were usually for adding in support for other media scrapers (porn and anime), or even other media types, like audiobooks.

Additionally, Plex tends to revise their UI and inner workings in a way that favors everything but the core media sharing platform. They add TV stations, they mix in their streaming ad-supported channels with your search results, and push them before the friends and family stuff, making it tough to help other navigate to shared libraries.

I think, overall, Plex is a good shepherd for their product, but everyone knows the enshitificaiton process is inevitable. It's just a question of how long the timeline between "Plex is usable" and "Plex is sold to private equity and is now utter shit." I've been pleasantly surprised with the length, so far. But having an escape hatch is always a good idea, and Jellyfin seems to be nearing a parity.

Re: WiiFin – Jellyfin Client for Nintendo Wii

#29

Noticed that Jellyfin had inched out Plex when sorting by popularity on the TrueNAS app catalogue the other day (45,178 installs vs Plex's 42,225). The existance of this project seems to confirm that the dev ecosystem around it is getting stronger!

Can anyone comment on the security of Jellyfin? When I had last looked into it, it seemed like Jellyfin had a somewhat weak security model that made me question switching family members to it from Plex.

Don't expose it to the internet unless you know what you're doing, or put it on a VPS you don't care about.

Ideally keep it behind a VPN and give your family members access to it that way, and let local devices on your LAN connect to it without a VPN.

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