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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I would invite you to notice your interlocutor's assumptions, especially as revealed in his prior comment. Look at how he misunderstands the situation: > If you wanted to convince everybody about a vast universe of secret business and your expertise in it... > Like if I wanted to convince people that In’N’Out has a secret menu... You are discussing business. He is understanding you to be attempting to "mog" him, beca…

I am so old :( I looked up “mogging” and I’d think “my assumptions about stuff are valid because I’m a lawyer and don’t know what you do” would count more as mogging than “that doesn’t quite sound right, this is a conversation about something specific and not your general cleverness” but I’ve got a Benny Hill archive to get through

Those are not assumptions on your interlocutor's part. You've embarrassed yourself quite badly, I'm afraid. I know you don't understand how, but that doesn't change the fact of it.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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The very best open models are maybe 3-12 months behind the frontier and are large enough that you need $10k+ of hardware to run them, and a lot more to run them performantly. ROI here is going to be deeply negative vs just using the same models via API or subscription. You can run smaller models on much more modest hardware but they aren't yet useful for anything more than trivial coding tasks. Performance also reall…

What are the best open models?

This includes open and closed models ranked by popularity and other metrics.

https://openrouter.ai/rankings

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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post #451
post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The very best open models are maybe 3-12 months behind the frontier and are large enough that you need $10k+ of hardware to run them, and a lot more to run them performantly. ROI here is going to be deeply negative vs just using the same models via API or subscription. You can run smaller models on much more modest hardware but they aren't yet useful for anything more than trivial coding tasks. Performance also reall…

What are the best open models?

This includes open and closed models ranked by popularity and other metrics.

https://openrouter.ai/rankings

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

For what it’s worth, that was pretty obvious from the get go it wasn’t a realistic long term deal. I’ve been building all the libraries I hoped existed over the past 1-2y to have something neat to work with whenever the free compute era ends. I feel that’s the approach that makes sense. Take the free tokens, build everything you would want to exist if you don’t have access to the service anymore. If it goes away you’…

Yes! I’ve been trying (and failing!) to get people to understand this. Build the high leverage tools while the tokens are cheap. Unfortunately, I haven’t figured out the right set of high leverage tools. :)

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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> We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. Looks like enshittification on steroids, honestly.

Getting $5000 worth of product essentially free and then being told to pay is not enshittification.

it's not worth $5000 if people are not willing to pay that amount for it

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Why scared? Like, if theit software gets bad, we stop using it.

Maybe scared wasn't the best word... but we cannot deny Opus is a great - if not greatest - model at coding and Anthropic is the only one serving it a reasonable prices when going through their subscription model.

how have you coded before the era of llms?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I am so old :( I looked up “mogging” and I’d think “my assumptions about stuff are valid because I’m a lawyer and don’t know what you do” would count more as mogging than “that doesn’t quite sound right, this is a conversation about something specific and not your general cleverness” but I’ve got a Benny Hill archive to get through

Those are not assumptions on your interlocutor's part. You've embarrassed yourself quite badly, I'm afraid. I know you don't understand how, but that doesn't change the fact of it.

> You've embarrassed yourself quite badly, I'm afraid.

:( you are right. This isn’t the first time I’ve lost an argument because hours into a discussion somebody introduced “what if a billion dollars” or “magic amulet” or “ブルマの母” etc

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

> Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. This is what I'm working on proving now. It is more that there is a confidence score while thinking. Opus will quit if it is too high and will grind on if the confidence score is close to the real answer. Haiku handles this well too. If you give Sonnet a hard task, it…

> This is what I'm working on proving now.

Stella Laurenzo, AMD’s director of AI, filed a detailed GitHub issue on April 2 documenting that Claude Code reads code three times less before editing it, rewrites entire files twice as often, and abandons tasks mid-way at rates that were previously zero. Her analysis of nearly 7,000 sessions puts precise numbers on how Anthropic’s coding tool has degraded since early March.

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Those are not assumptions on your interlocutor's part. You've embarrassed yourself quite badly, I'm afraid. I know you don't understand how, but that doesn't change the fact of it.

> You've embarrassed yourself quite badly, I'm afraid. :( you are right. This isn’t the first time I’ve lost an argument because hours into a discussion somebody introduced “what if a billion dollars” or “magic amulet” or “ブルマの母” etc

It's just a world you've never seen. Don't take it too personally.
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