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McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Re: McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Bath salts: "Since then, McAfee has reportedly been spending his time researching MDPV, a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine. It is illegal in the United States." 0.o

Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me:

> a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine

That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means of ingestion).

> It is illegal in the United States.

Well, that doesn't mean much. Methamphetamine is illegal, except when it isn't (prescribed). And the US drug scheduling (which determines the degrees of legality) is so nonsensical that it may as well be randomly generated for all it tells us about the relative dangers and harms of a substance.

Re: McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Bath salts: "Since then, McAfee has reportedly been spending his time researching MDPV, a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine. It is illegal in the United States." 0.o

Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me: > a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means o…

Methamphetamine was given out in bucket loads to troops in the past.

Re: McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Bath salts: "Since then, McAfee has reportedly been spending his time researching MDPV, a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine. It is illegal in the United States." 0.o

Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me: > a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means o…

That is why in the Ars article it was linked to its wikipedia page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone

Re: McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Bath salts: "Since then, McAfee has reportedly been spending his time researching MDPV, a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine. It is illegal in the United States." 0.o

Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me: > a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means o…

There's not much innuendo involved here. The article pretty directly links to MDVP. Go look it up on Erowid; it's not particularly inert stuff.

Re: McAfee Security founder wanted for murder in Belize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me: > a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means o…

There's not much innuendo involved here. The article pretty directly links to MDVP. Go look it up on Erowid; it's not particularly inert stuff.

> The article pretty directly links to MDVP. Go look it up on Erowid

My point is that this is a rather irresponsible journalistic statement. If they want to portray MDVP as a dangerous substance, that's a pretty terrible comparison that fails to get the point across to anybody who knows a thing or two about psychoactive substances.

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