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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Violence won't solve anything, everyone is worse off.

I agree, French Revolution was pretty peaceful

> French Revolution was pretty peaceful

The elites after the French Revolution were not only mostly the same as before, they escaped with so much money and wealth that it’s actually debated if they increased their wealth share through the chaos [1].

[1] https://www.jstor.org/stable/650023

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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This is obviously true, but you're just inviting the rebuttals. Arguments that civil violence is unproductive are boring and obvious. Normal people have been acculturated to understand the point already. The only way to have an "interesting" conversation about this is to take the other side. All of those arguments will be vile, as they have to be given the context. I'm not criticizing you, and I guess I'm glad someon…

In high school the 90s, I learned about what the founding fathers said about violence. But, I guess that's too 18th century now.

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but we haven't even proven that AI will destroy vast amounts of jobs. Some, sure, junior software engineers are in trouble. but other then that, do we really have any quantified evidence as to how many jobs have been displaced by AI? i've been looking for numbers on this but it all seems murky and wishy washy. i'm open to be convinced, if anyone's got numbers.

also, if the worst case scenario does happen and most of the population finds itself without money. there are other ways to live with very little money.

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> the sentiment for many is that 'we don't care we have nothing to lose anyway' Everyone says this before they learn what they didn’t value. Peace, for example. > Its easy for you to say, all perched up as a VC It’s easy to say for anyone who has read the history of political violence. When that comes on the table, universally [1], the people with power also have the power to raise armies. The people who stand to ben…

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> these people don't care about a history lesson - they act as they do irrespective of logic

I doubt they’re on this forum.

> Clearly you're not a fella who's faced much hardship in life

Ha. Putting my own past aside, I’ve found it’s folks who grew up never knowing violence who are the quickest to embrace it.

> They already do

There is always more.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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> all recognize that they're conditional - if you cross certain lines of conduct you lose them - and there's actually a lot of debate to be had about where those lines are One hundred percent of those debates end at process, not unilateral action. If it can be unilaterally nullified, it is no longer a right. > you have to believe in them 100% or 0% Not degree but range. We don’t have a right to infinite life or medic…

Just to clarify, here's my actual position - it was only implied in the first comment so I'll spell it out: 1. We shouldn't kill or harass or destroy the property of someone like Altman. AKA, I'm not in disagreement with your take on abiding by the laws of the land. 2. But it's not surprising that such things happen to individuals like him, for reasons outlined. Put it this way - if I was in his position, I would be…

> it's not surprising that such things happen to individuals like him

It’s understandable. But that also justifies a crackdown against it. I want to see AI regulation. Dumbfucks shooting a housekeeper in Sam Altman’s house is only going to stall that.

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The fact that he would rather live in an underground bunker (than simply not let things get that out of hand) says a lot about his humanity.

> that he would rather live in an underground bunker

He isn’t, never has and never will. I know some of the bunker people. They basically have them in the way you or I might have a fancy tool in the garage or piece of art. It’s a discussion piece for a different class of wealth.

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Treating a rigged game as fair doesn't make it fair, it just makes you easier to beat.

> Treating a rigged game as fair doesn't make it fair, it just makes you easier to beat Not playing at all makes you easier to beat still. Anyone pining for civil war should vacation in a war zone first. It’s difficult to encapsulate the privilege of peace until it’s been lost.

What do you say to the people in Minneapolis demanding justice for the murder of Alex Pretti?
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