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European AI. A playbook to own it

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Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by mhitza »

sixhobbits wrote: post #16

58 Minute reading time. I read the first dozen pages or so and I'm not sure what the goal of this thing is, why they wrote it, who they wrote it for? Is it aimed at European governments? Or companies? Or people? Or something else? > This playbook provides a clear, actionable framework to position Europe as that powerhouse, accelerating AI development and adoption, attracting and retaining top talent, simplifying regu…

Indeed very slop-feeling "whitepaper", might as well be written by chatgpt/claude because it has the tropes.

Multiple sections have expandable subsections for more details on proposals.

Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by hobofan »

I'm a fan of Mistral, but this seems to be 80% "make Europe more startup-friendly in general" rather than anything specific to AI.

Given how un-startup-driven adoption of new technologies usually happens in Europe, I don't see this playbook becoming a cornerstone of how AI adoption will pan out in Europe.

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Post by ks2048 »

dwedge wrote: post #9

I've tried Mistral a few times, at first it seemed promising (though lagging) but at some point it seems like they stopped focusing on AI and shifted their focus to being a mouthpiece for EU policy and pushing for regulation. I can't really take any of their announcements seriously anymore. A couple of weeks ago they were calling for a European AI tax to pay creatives.

Why do you say they "stopped focusing on AI"? I see a pretty consistent release of pretty good products - particularly in speech and OCR.

Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by dwedge »

ks2048 wrote: post #33
dwedge wrote: post #9

I've tried Mistral a few times, at first it seemed promising (though lagging) but at some point it seems like they stopped focusing on AI and shifted their focus to being a mouthpiece for EU policy and pushing for regulation. I can't really take any of their announcements seriously anymore. A couple of weeks ago they were calling for a European AI tax to pay creatives.

Why do you say they "stopped focusing on AI"? I see a pretty consistent release of pretty good products - particularly in speech and OCR.

I used their OCR against a few hundred page PDF that was printed text but missing the OCR. It cost me $5 and was useless, it did worse than tesseract. That's how all my experience with mistral is

Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by thrance »

rjtavares wrote: post #24
__natty__ wrote: post #12

I like the "european technology" movement not because of any nationalist ideas, but because it stimulates technological innovation and creates a new dynamic.

It's important to note that these efforts aren't nationalistic - they're multilateral. In fact, European nationalists are consistently trying to sabotage European efforts. On the bright side: people seem to be moving away from such nationalistic ideas. Here's to Orban being the first of many defeats for them in the near future.

"European nationalists" as in "nationalists which happen to reside in Europe", not "Chauvinistic European federalists", which feels like a rare breed.

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Post by [deleted] »

sixhobbits wrote: post #16

58 Minute reading time. I read the first dozen pages or so and I'm not sure what the goal of this thing is, why they wrote it, who they wrote it for? Is it aimed at European governments? Or companies? Or people? Or something else? > This playbook provides a clear, actionable framework to position Europe as that powerhouse, accelerating AI development and adoption, attracting and retaining top talent, simplifying regu…

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Post by hildeprand »

sixhobbits wrote: post #16

58 Minute reading time. I read the first dozen pages or so and I'm not sure what the goal of this thing is, why they wrote it, who they wrote it for? Is it aimed at European governments? Or companies? Or people? Or something else? > This playbook provides a clear, actionable framework to position Europe as that powerhouse, accelerating AI development and adoption, attracting and retaining top talent, simplifying regu…

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Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by edwinjm »

dwedge wrote: post #9

I've tried Mistral a few times, at first it seemed promising (though lagging) but at some point it seems like they stopped focusing on AI and shifted their focus to being a mouthpiece for EU policy and pushing for regulation. I can't really take any of their announcements seriously anymore. A couple of weeks ago they were calling for a European AI tax to pay creatives.

If they want to improve but find that European regulations are the main obstacle, it makes sense they focus on that.

Re: European AI. A playbook to own it

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Post by dwedge »

edwinjm wrote: post #38
dwedge wrote: post #9

I've tried Mistral a few times, at first it seemed promising (though lagging) but at some point it seems like they stopped focusing on AI and shifted their focus to being a mouthpiece for EU policy and pushing for regulation. I can't really take any of their announcements seriously anymore. A couple of weeks ago they were calling for a European AI tax to pay creatives.

If they want to improve but find that European regulations are the main obstacle, it makes sense they focus on that.

Maybe I wasn't very clear. It seems like they are in support of those regulations. They seem like an EU mouthpiece
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