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Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by Spooky23 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #29
klntsky wrote: post #19

It should also click "see less often" on every detected bait post. Heals the algo really well if you do that persistently

On Facebook, at least, the click seems to outweigh the feedback. I say "not interested" to a reel and get more just like it.

I get the ads about Warren Buffet’s (or other money celebrities) investment group or whatever. They are usually WhatsApp based pump and dump schemes for Chinese stocks.

Facebook somehow can’t detect these obvious scams, but somehow they have no problem pushing them to me after I looked into it when a fried almost got taken.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by hunterpayne »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #10

I don't think that automated filtering on conditionals like "rage politics" is a good idea. At best, you're going to end up with a confusing feed that contains reactions to the outrage without the actual outrage that's driving them; at worst, you're going to end up systematically misinformed on political topics that people find outrageous.

"you're going to end up systematically misinformed on political topics that people find outrageous."

If you spend too much time on X, that's a given. The problem is that informed, nuanced, and factual takes don't drive clicks and are hard to fit in 140 characters. Long-form Youtube is a much better place to find those types of takes anyway. Generally, the shorter the content, the worse the take.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by pgt »

Philpax wrote: post #11

Adding to the chorus: if you need to apply a solution like this, it's probably time to walk away from the platform. (Well, the right time to walk away would have been years ago, but...)

You need to curate your algorithm. Took me 10 years before I started blocking aggressively and now my feed is amazing with 90% bangers. Twitter is by far the best product in this space. Every other platform is 2+ weeks behind. Twitter is where the news breaks.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by mh- »

alain_gilbert wrote: post #31
Philpax wrote: post #11

Adding to the chorus: if you need to apply a solution like this, it's probably time to walk away from the platform. (Well, the right time to walk away would have been years ago, but...)

I was actually thinking of making a similar app for hacker news comments. Should we all quit hacker news too?

HN is my top candidate for a solution like this, too. Because there's a ton of high quality content here, increasingly buried beneath a small number of sentiments and topics I don't care to see rehashed constantly.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by ryandrake »

Philpax wrote: post #11

Adding to the chorus: if you need to apply a solution like this, it's probably time to walk away from the platform. (Well, the right time to walk away would have been years ago, but...)

We have a solution like this for HN, but people don't use it: It's the "hide" button, and it's right next to the "flag" button. Yet, when users see content they don't like, instead of just hiding it, to block it for themselves, they often choose to flag it so that they can block others from seeing it too.

I'd welcome per-user curation tools like OP's which don't affect the content for the rest of us.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by ryandrake »

mh- wrote: post #44
alain_gilbert wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was actually thinking of making a similar app for hacker news comments. Should we all quit hacker news too?

HN is my top candidate for a solution like this, too. Because there's a ton of high quality content here, increasingly buried beneath a small number of sentiments and topics I don't care to see rehashed constantly.

I'd like to see it, too, but for the opposite[1] reason: Others can use this curation (which only affects their own view of HN) instead of flagging (which affects my view and everyone else's too).

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47744253

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by mh- »

celeritascelery wrote: post #36
antonymoose wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any social site inclusive of this one ought to have such a feature.

Agreed. I am getting tired of half the HN posts being about politics. I come here to get away from that stuff, but it is becoming a greater portion of the content.

I would mind far less if the political comments were only the political posts. I just avoid clicking into those.

It's when I click into an interesting topic, and it's steered into being an offtopic retread of every other thread about US politics. The upvote/downvote system simply no longer works to squelch it as it once did, because there are enough people here who believe "everything is political" and therefore it's always "on-topic".

That is their prerogative, but it has dramatically lessened my enjoyment and engagement on this platform in the last 5 years. And it's gone into overdrive in the last 6 months.

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by mh- »

ryandrake wrote: post #47
mh- wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is my top candidate for a solution like this, too. Because there's a ton of high quality content here, increasingly buried beneath a small number of sentiments and topics I don't care to see rehashed constantly.

I'd like to see it, too, but for the opposite[1] reason: Others can use this curation (which only affects their own view of HN) instead of flagging (which affects my view and everyone else's too). 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47744253

I use the flag functionality as per the guidelines:

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

> If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

Flagging is a way to shape what types of content takes up the finite amount of attention available on HN. If everyone used it (only) in the way the guidelines ask you to, the front page would look very different on a given day.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Bouncer: Block "crypto", "rage politics", and more from your X feed using AI

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Post by trog »

ceejayoz wrote: post #29
klntsky wrote: post #19

It should also click "see less often" on every detected bait post. Heals the algo really well if you do that persistently

On Facebook, at least, the click seems to outweigh the feedback. I say "not interested" to a reel and get more just like it.

Exactly my experience a few years ago (it not working is directly related to how little I use Facebook today). You might stop getting stuff from that specific page or account or whatever but you certainly continue to get related stuff.
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