They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral. When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (including zero access reverse tunnels) stops working. There's even a website made for checking if the match is on: https://hayahora.futbol/ You can check if your host is affected: https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-pr...
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Your last paragraph: it is sad. But we had successful global networks before the Internet (the PSTN, telegraph) and we'll certainly have global networks after this at some point in human history. Perhaps in the the time between the Internet and what's next, the world will become a bit more mature about a few things.
this is teleological thinking. it's not necessarily the case that things get better over time.
obviously it can be bumpy and maybe there's a Great Filter or you happen to live during a bad period but life is certainly much longer and less brutal than it was for 99.9% of human history
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#223LOL this is so hilarious, blocking a portion of a web infra for a football match
It isn't even an authoritative regime censoring something, but much more silly.
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just wait until they block Azure as well so the official La Liga site also stops working
Dumb question but why don’t the pirate sites all host on Azure if Cloudflare is blocked and Azure isn’t?
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> Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". This is generally how the GFW works in China. Instead of an overbearing nanny like a school or corporation's DNS blocker, you're left with a sense that you're on a version of the Internet that is just intermittently and somewhat mysteriously…
Your last paragraph: it is sad. But we had successful global networks before the Internet (the PSTN, telegraph) and we'll certainly have global networks after this at some point in human history. Perhaps in the the time between the Internet and what's next, the world will become a bit more mature about a few things.
The counter-reaction to this era will include additional communication control.
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#229Spain is a failing country. Their economy is in shambles and the government has ceded internet control to a private corporation who runs football games.
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#230Cloudflare could resolve this without negatively impacting fundamental services... just place all newly registered sites (e.g. But of course, Cloudflare rather prefers to hold their actual large customers (who don't have much of an alternative to CF) and everyday Spaniard users hostage.
What would prevent a pirate site operator from registering a domain a few months in advance and sitting on it in the meantime? How do you propose customers ought to be vetted? Why should a host be expected to take on the duties of a hall monitor? Isn't that the judiciary's job? I think it is actually Spain using their residents as hostages in an attempt to extort Cloudflare and other large providers. The current situ…
It's driving up the cost and expenses. Operators of legitimate sites don't have to worry during that probation time about anything with the exception of customers in Spain during LL match hours.
LL has ~10 matches / weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon), that means pirates have to have about 40 domains/CF integrations per month plus more in standby - and more, for longer probation periods.
> How do you propose customers ought to be vetted?
I dunno... stuff like basic KYC measures would be a good start. Copies of ID cards. Government business licenses. Private entities (credit bureaus). Even phone number verification is a serious hurdle for malicious actors, and it ties activities to real world identities that can be held accountable.
Dangerous stuff (e.g. streaming) could only be made available upon a security deposit.
> Why should a host be expected to take on the duties of a hall monitor? Isn't that the judiciary's job?
No, and that we let ISPs get away with ignoring abuse@ emails is part of why the Internet is such a nasty place these days. You need a license to drive a car on public roads, you need an expensive license to fly a small plane, and you need a goddamn massively expensive license to fly a widebody aircraft. So why shouldn't you need to pass some set of verification before you get access to inarguably the Internet's most powerful data pipes?