If you want to send me unsolicited marketing email and not go to spam, be funny. Otherwise I will mark it as spam.
We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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Gmail has a system of reputation as you suggest. It is very likely that enough people marked their emails as spam, which the OOP could figure out on the postmaster dashboard if they were so inclined: https://postmaster.google.com/managedomains It also goes the other way, if enough people click "not spam" and interact with your mails, your reputation gets better. I'm currently trying to do that with my personal email/…
When I ran my own mail server, I was lucky to even make it to the gmail spam folder. More often it didn't even make it that far. From what I can tell, O365 is even worse though.
Sites like mail-tester.com, learndmarc.com, or sending a mail to ping@tools.mxtoolbox.com (which will reply a report to you) are pretty useful for that.
But yeah I have only limited experience I suppose. Having some mail correspondence with friends in the hopes of improving my domain's reputation to those mail servers.
Oh and btw, I relay through my cloud providers mail delivery system - doing it from your own IP is probably a whole different league.
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
#163Opt-out is not consent. If I didn't opt in, I mark it as spam.
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
#164How do you get email addresses? Do people freely and explicitly choose to sign up to your mailing list, or is it baggage that you're forcing on them without their consent? I notice that when I go to https://fontawesome.com/ and click "Start for Free", I'm asked for my email address. This isn't necessary for me to use the icons. I just need a page that tells me to add the necessary tags for cdnjs [0]. I think your pro…
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
#165Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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In my experience they will mark your e-mails as spam for no sound reason at all. I run my own MX, for myself personally, and my e-mails to friends using Gmail regularly gets classed as spam as soon as it's been "long enough" since my last mail. My MX does everything by the books, ticks all the boxes, never ended up on any DNSBL etc. Their behavior is effectively a form of systemic sabotage.
Yes absolutely this. I've put so much effort into making sure I tick all the boxes and yet I constantly wonder if my email is getting delivered. This feels anti competitive to me. It's Google constantly telling me, give up, you know deep down you should just use Gmail.
well, now we're stuck with gmail for a year, and no, it haven't improved anything!
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
#167My money is on the likelihood that most GMail users started marking these emails as spam, and GMail recognized that overriding trend and began to redirect the emails accordingly on a broader scale. Essentially, the people FontAwesome thinks will want to hear about their new features have actually, collectively, said, "No thanks," and FontAwesome is struggling to accept that.
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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Who’s angry? We’re just not interested in someone else’s unethical and unwelcome business practices and are acting to curtail its impact. Your dreams of business success aren’t my problem, and neither is your shamelessness.
Sending you an email after you signed up is "unethical"? That's a bit carried away, don't you think? There are unsubscribe buttons with laws that enforce that they work. Meanwhile hyperscalers are constantly in your eyes and ears and they have a million ways to bypass those regulations and get into your headspace regardless. Your URL bar is an ad. Your phone default settings and push notifications are ads. Your app s…
Unless I asked for it, it is both unethical and will turn me as potential customer away, and it is illegal (GDPR).
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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Do they have an easy-to-unsubscribe link in the marketing spam (cannot include logging into the user's account)? I have a generic name gmail account and people with my name frequently accidentally use my email address when signing up for stuff. When I get unsolicited mail which doesn't include a simple unsubscribe link then I just report as spam instead.
I think most of them are spamming you and you’re being nice to attribute to mistakes. Also, a lot of companies nowadays keep adding weird email topics that you need to constantly unsubscribe from. If I signed up and turned off all subscriptions, then anything they send is marked as spam immediately. The lack of cost in sending email makes it easy for them to keep abusing all the time.
My gut says unsolicited marketing emails, from popular sites I've never used before, like Brooks Brothers or Robinhood (especially after a "Welcome to ${site}!") or US public school event notification emails are all probably legit mistakes.
I could see even a public school system having issues with getting flagged as spam if they don't include an easy method to unsubscribe because then marking as spam+blocking becomes the best option in response to wrong address.
Re: We have a 99% email reputation, but Gmail disagrees
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I don’t know if this is true with Font Awesome, but more and more companies are spamming my inbox despite disabling any promotional emails in their settings. So, I mark any unwanted email as spam in Gmail immediately, and even leave bad reviews. Having my email address is not the same as having my consent. Stop trying to roofie us with malicious EULAs.
I remember there was a thread some years back with an article complaining that you get emails immediately on sign up, but that it can take up to 10 days to stop receiving emails when you unsubscribe. One spammer said they could use the same servers for both but when you unsubscribe you have immediately signaled that you are now losing him money. So he uses the slowest cheapest part of the stack for removal. He will n…