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I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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You probably don't make 10k MMR on day one. If you make many small apps, it can make sense to learn how to run things lean to have 4x longer runway per app.

The runway is going to be your time and attention span, not $10/mo. I don't know what you value your time or opportunity cost as... but the $10/mo doesn't need to save very many minutes of your time deferring dealing with a resource constraint or add too much reliability to pay off. If resource limitations end up upsetting one end user, that costs more than $10.

This assumes you have to spend any time or attention worrying. 1GB is plenty of memory for backend type stuff.

And most VPSs allow increasing memory with a click of a button and a reboot.

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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Do you know why it is a toy? Because in a real prod environment after inserting 240k rows per second for a while you have to deal with the fact that schema evolution is required. Good luck migrating those huge tables with Sqlite ALTER table implementation

Try doing that on a “real” DB with hundreds of millions of rows too. Anything more than adding a column is a massive risk, especially once you’ve started sharding.

Yes it might be risky. But most schema evolution changes can be done with no or minimal downtime even if you have to do then in multiple steps. When is a simple ALTER going to be totally unacetable if youare using Sqlite?

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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I bet that takes more time than the 5 extra minutes you take to setup Postgres in the same box upfront.

To export a database? Probably even faster. And that's ignoring the difference in performance.

So you are migrating from Sqlite to Postgres because you need it. What is the state of your product when you need to do this migration? Is your product non trivial? Are you now dependent on particular performance characteristics of Sqlite? Do you now need to keep your service running 24/7? Accounting for all of that takes way more than 5 minutes. The only way to beat that is if you still have a toy product and you can just export the database and import it and pray that it all works as a migration strategy.

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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“Guys, we need to postpone our beta launch! We need another week to implement a backup strategy with point in time recovery!” You don’t need backups until you have customers.

So go live without testing the backup in the beta at all?

Yes! Why build a backup process before you know you have data worth backing up.

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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2 days is optimum, you can fit a nice curve - 1, 2 ... at the current rate we will have 536,870,912 by day 30.

Nice, the investors will be overjoyed to hear this.

I am pleased to announce I am raising another round of funding for these overjoyed investors to increase their holdings at a much higher valuation.

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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post #81

The text feels incoherent to me and lacks some nuance. It starts about cutting costs by the choice of infrastructure and goes further to less resource hungry tools and cheaper services. But never compares the cost of these things. Do I save actually the upgrade to a bigger server by using Go and sqlite over let's say Python and postgres? Or does it not even matter when you have just n many users. Then I do not unders…

It actually starts with a completely unrelated anecdote: "What do you even need funding for?" I agree. The author claims to have multiple $10K MRR websites running on $20 costs. I also don't understand what he needs money for — shouldn't the $x0,000 be able to fund the $20 for the next project? It doesn't make any sense at all. Then the author trails off and tells us how he runs on $20/month. Well, why did you apply…

The author says he wants funding to grow the businesses. Presumably he wants funding and the help from investors to enable quicker growth than what is possible organically.

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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post #243

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I don't know what to say. People keep saying these engineers exist and here I am not having seen a single, and I follow many indie hackers communities.

I've worked at a startup that could've trivially ran on a single VPS and kept things simple yet had a dedicated infra guy using a full k8s setup.

I once interviewed for a small print shop that was proudly throwing out every AWS product name when describing their stack. They serve a few hundred customers and their previous system worked for decades entirely over email and a web form. I decided I wasn't interested around the point where he explained how they're migrating to lambdas

Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack

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I do agree that the overall tendency towards cloud has made things much more complicated and expensive than they need to be in many cases. Cloud has its place, but so do simple server instances. Many projects won't reach any kind of scale that would exceed the capabilities of a medium-sized VPS. We're running a page with 600k users at work that could easily fit on a 30€ VPS. Instead, we moved to AWS and are now paying 800€ for it. No benefits whatsoever.

So yea, stick with what worked for decades if you don't see a reason not to. Also, I remember reading that StackOverflow runs on a bunch of super powerful root servers?

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