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Telling someone what to do is even more American, let people do whatever they want, at the times they want, as long as they don't hurt others, this is the Spanish way.
Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#92Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that…
Perhaps its time to put a VPN into all your CI jobs
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The companies relying on cloudflare won't be in Spain. If you buy a GPS tracker by a Canadian company, developed in India, manufactured in China, they are unlikely to know, even it they cared, that a single country that accounts for a tiny percentage of their sales breaks fundamental internet infrastructure on the regular "because fútbol y dinero". And when purchasing a product, there's no "bill of materials" telling…
>fundamental internet infrastructure I'm not saying this situation isn't bullshit, but the bigger problem is that CloudFlare is now "fundamental internet infrastructure". This is precisely the situation that the internet was designed to prevent. Yesterday I got stuck in endless CloudFlare CAPTCHA's, trying to access theretroweb.com. I had to give up. Many such cases. I hate CloudFlare so much, it's unreal.
> This is precisely the situation that the internet was designed to prevent
Right, but on the other hand, our constitution and laws are supposed to give us the rights to access a internet where the government cannot block entire companies who host websites, because a few bad websites are hosted there.
Not to mention all us freelancers, contractors and just in general computing users, who sometimes want to continue working although 90% of the country is watching football, we should be able to do so even if pirates use Cloudflare for shitty stuff.
I agree that Cloudflare sucks, people should avoid defaulting to putting Cloudflare in front of absolutely everything they do and I too get stuck at the CAPTCHAs sometimes. But that doesn't remove the fact that Cloudflare, just like every other lawful company, should be allowed to be visited during La Liga matches.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rampant bot traffic and scrapers are the real cancer. Until that goes away everyone is going to need cloudflare or some other bot firewall service.
It won’t. Some people are perfectly happy to destroy and destroy as long as they get some small portion as profit for themselves.
That, ironically, includes Cloudflare. Without rampant bots making the internet worse for everybody, they wouldn't have as much work. And their portion of profit is anything but small.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, a classic tweet from the Cloudflare CEO re their fight with Italians authorities re censorship: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492 Everyone looks bad in this conflict.
How does this make Matthew look bad?
Matt acting like he's a free speech absolutist. Hilarious.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
not necesarilly, any government will make decisions, if there's no one to speak up and inform them why the decision is stupid, like the one from LaLiga, then we end up in this situation
This is incredibly naive.
What? This is how governance and public opinion happen, at least in Spain. Government does something bad? Everyone out on the streets to complain, and calling politicians to change their mind.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, but doing nothing is never an option if you disagree with what they're doing. To think that doing nothing is better than something, that's incredibly naive.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#97Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.
Sadly, it won't accomplish anything. La Liga seems to have enough political power in the country to bury all of that. Probably bribing everyone involved.
Corruption at that level could mean organized crime. Is there a culture of betting through illegal bookies, are they fixing matches, or ¿porque no los dos?
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been filing complaints since a year ago, told others to do the same too, nothing happens. There been moments I've meant to deploy fixes to issues but I cannot, because some tooling goes offline. I've claimed financial loss, claimed sanity loss and everything in-between, but I'm afraid unless something reaches the European/EU courts, Spain will continue to be in the pocket of the La Liga owners. Straight up fucki…
how do you make claims, here: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/ ? Can't find a way of doing it with Cl@ve
I think this is it: https://reg.redsara.es/#login
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps that is true, but the Cloudflare anti-bot protection is too stupid and annoying. They should have used a cookie or something else that does not require asking me every few minutes to prove once more that I am not a bot. There was a time when Cloudflare had become less intrusive, but for the last months it has begun again to intervene almost each time when opening some pages. There is no doubt that anti-bot pr…
You're getting frequent verification requests because you're behaving like a bot. Are you modifying your user agent string or using a VPN?
Who knows what upsets ClownFlare? I'm using Vivaldi on Linux on IPv6 in Denmark with every uBlock filter enabled and Cookie Auto-delete. That seems to confuse and anger CloudFlare and I get CAPTCHA tarpitted constantly.