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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#61
post #23

This is why technology businesses and professionals need to take a little bit of an active role in local politics. Otherwise you get nonsense.

That's an interesting euphenism for 'spend a massive amount of money on ~~corruption~~ lobbying',

not necesarilly, any government will make decisions, if there's no one to speak up and inform them why the decision is stupid, like the one from LaLiga, then we end up in this situation

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#63
post #19
post #4

They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral. When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (including zero access reverse tunnels) stops working. There's even a website made for checking if the match is on: https://hayahora.futbol/ You can check if your host is affected: https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-pr...

Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.

The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games.

Pirates would rather not be blocked, so they create a new, disposable website for every game. Any blocking must happen fast.

Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked.

The courts would rather not create a special fast lane through the courts, just to resolve a squabble between two huge corporations.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#64
post #39

This is a great example of why blanket IP blocking is such a terrible enforcement mechanism. Cloudflare hosts hundreds of thousands of services behind shared IP ranges — blocking one IP to stop a piracy stream takes out everything else on that IP, including Docker registries, API endpoints, and CDNs that have nothing to do with football. The real fix on your end until Spain sorts this out: set up a pull-through regis…

just wait until they block Azure as well so the official La Liga site also stops working

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#65

Spain is a failing country. Their economy is in shambles and the government has ceded internet control to a private corporation who runs football games.

>Their economy is in shambles

But it's among the fastest growing in the EU? Granted, part of this is starting from a low base, but it's hardly "in shambles"

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locat...

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#66

Spain is a failing country. Their economy is in shambles and the government has ceded internet control to a private corporation who runs football games.

To note that this isn't the executive or legislative but the judiciary doing the bidding.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an interesting euphenism for 'spend a massive amount of money on ~~corruption~~ lobbying',

not necesarilly, any government will make decisions, if there's no one to speak up and inform them why the decision is stupid, like the one from LaLiga, then we end up in this situation

This is incredibly naive.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#69
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.

Here's a good English-language article about it, with a timeline: https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/ Looks like same old regulatory capture.

Also, a classic tweet from the Cloudflare CEO re their fight with Italians authorities re censorship:

https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492

Everyone looks bad in this conflict.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#70
This is the moral equivalent of shutting the water off for a whole city because one dude's house has a leak. The harms to society clearly and obviously outweigh any possible benefits to society. But if that one dude has the power to shut it all off, and doesn't care...
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