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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

Fellow annoyed Google AI Pro subscriber here! Can confirm, I initially enjoyed the 5-hour limits on Gemini CLI and Antigravity so much that I paid for a full year, thinking it was a great decision In the following months, they significantly cut the 5-hour limits (not sure if it even exists anymore), introduced the unrealistically bad weekly limit that I can fully consume in 1-2 hour, introduced the monthly AI credits…

It should be illegal to change the terms of the subscription mid-period. If you paid for the full year, you should get that plan for the whole year. I don't understand how it's ok for corporations to just change the terms mid-way, and we just have to accept it.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#153
I don't use Claude so this doesn't affect me, but I worry it will spoil the fun for me for following reason.

They inflated how much their tools burn tokens from day one pretty much,remember all the stupid research and reports Claude always wanted to do, no matter what you asked it. Other tools are much smarter so this is not such a big deal.

More importantly, these moves tend to reverberate in the industry, so I expect others will clamp down on usage a lot and this will spoil my joy of using AI without countring every token.

Burning tokens doesn't just wastes your allotment, it also wastes your time. This gave rise to turbo offering where you get responses faster but burn 2x your tokens.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We vote here on HN and it's much more effective. Anyone from Anthropic reading conversations on HN like this one can be scared. We'll jump ship if they don't address such glaring issues.

The nice iOS app is a big convenience for me, but I’m starting to think I should just put my $20 in Open Router. It seems like minimax is a pretty solid competitor. I’m curious if the US-centric “frontier” is just marketing.

imo that’s what I’m doing. Trialing the Hermes harness since I can hook it up to signal. StepFun 3.5 Flash for general assistant stuff and Kimi/Minimax for software development

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#155
I extensively used Claude till now and just tested Genini 3.1 pro yesterday via AI studio. In gemini cli, they don't offer this, i don't know why?

Taking a second opinion has significantly helped me to design the system better, and it helped me to uncover my own and Claude blindspots.

Also, agree that, it spent and waist a lot of token on web search and many a times get stuck in loop.

Going forward- i will always use all 3 of them. Still my main coding agent is Claude for now.. but happy to see this field evolving so fast and it's easy to switch and use others on same project.

No network effects or lock in for a customer. Great to live in this period of time.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#156

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> Anthropic CAN change their limits and rates as they see fit, there’s never been hard promises or SLOs on these plans. No they can't. When I buy an annual subscription and prepay for the year, they can't just go "ok now you get one token a month" a day in. I bought the plan as I bought it. They can't change anything until the next renewal.

Agreed. I wouldn't have bought an annual subscription under the current conditions.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#157

I had used Claude Code max as my daily driver last year and this sort of drama was par for the course. It's why I migrated entirely to Codex, despite liking Claude, the harness, more. There's this honeymoon period with Claude you experience for a month or two followed by a trough of disillusionment, and then a rebound after a model update (rinse and repeat). It doesn't help that Anthropic is experiencing a vicious co…

I've been using Code for half a year, these past couple weeks have been a totally different experience I'm on max 20, and seeing my weekly quota going bust in ~3 days is a bit absurd when nothing has significantly changed in the way I work

This is my exact experience as well.

It’s further frustrating that I have committed to certain project deadlines knowing that I’d be able to complete it in X amount of time with agent tooling. That agentic tooling is no longer viable and I’m scrambling to readjust expectations and how much I can commit to.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#158
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a weird experience at work last week where Claude was just thinking forever about tasks and not actually doing anything. It was unusable. The next day it was fine again.

Set MAX_THINKING_TOKENS to 0, Claude's thinking hardly does anything and just wastes tokens. It actually often performs worse than without thinking.

Not the guy you're responding to, but when this happens the token counter is frozen at some low value (eg. 1k-10k) value as well, so it's not thinking in circles but rather not thinking (or doing anything, for that matter) at all.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#160
post #150

I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

> We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. Looks like enshittification on steroids, honestly.

Getting $5000 worth of product essentially free and then being told to pay is not enshittification.
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