Wasn't Antrophic previously offering double the token usage outside busy hours? Now they are counting tokens back at normal rate. But yeah, it's not good. I use codex because claude insists in peaking at and messing with folders and file outside its work area though
Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#82I don't get it. Last week on the 100 bucks plan I generated probably 50k LOC (not a quality measure for sure!) and just barely kissed the weekly limit. I did get rate limited on some sessions for sure, but that's to be expected. I'm curious what are people doing that is consuming your limits? I can't imagine filling the $200 a month plan unless I was essentially using Claude code itself as the api to mass process stu…
I have the same experience as you. I’m wondering if it is regional? I’m in Europe so don’t overlap much with US usage, which is likely to be way higher
Also in Europe and can only agree. Granted I'm on the 20x plan, but I have yet to hit a limit once and I'm using Claude 12h+ per day on multiple projects.
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#83Quite scared by the fact that the original issue pointing out the actual root cause of the issue has been 'Closed as not planned' by Anthropic. https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/46829
When a casino is making a lot of money from gamblers, they don't care about their customers losing money, given the machines are rigged against you.
Anthropic sells you 'knowledge' in the form of 'tokens' and you spend money rolling the dice, spinning the roulette wheels and inserting coins for another try. They later add limits and dumb down the model (which are their gambling machines) of their knowledge for you to pay for the wrong answers.
Once you hit your limit or Anthropic changes the usage limits, they don't care and halt your usage for a while.
If you don't like any of that, just save your money and use local LLMs instead.
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#84Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…
> Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. My experience is limited only to CC, Gemini-cli, and Codex - not Aider yet, trying different combinations of different models. But, from my experience, CC puts everything else to shame. How does Cursor compare? Has anyone found an Aider combination that works as well?
Is aider even a thing considered anymore?
It was pretty much first for CLI agents and had a benchmark that was the go to at the start of LLM coding. Now the benchmark doesn't get updated and aider never gets a mention in talking about CLI tools till now.
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#85I spend full 20x the week quota in less than 10 hours. How is that possible? Well try to mass translate texts in 30 languages and you will hit limits extremely quick.
That's a really gnarly task but I'm shocked it burns 20x that fast. How large is the text? That matters more than anything.
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#86Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…
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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#87My personal experience is way different: I struggle to burn through more than 50% of the 5 hour limit
For context, with Google AI Pro, I can burn through the Antigravity weekly limit in 1-2 hours if I force it to use Gemini 3.1 Pro. Meanwhile Gemini 3 Flash is basically unlimited but frequently produces buggy code or fail to implement things how I personally would (felt like it doesn't "think" like a software dev)
I also tried VS Code + Cline + OpenRouter + MiniMax M2.7. It's quite cheap and seems to be better than Gemini 3 Flash, but it gets really pricy as the context fills up because prompt caching is not supported for MiniMax on OpenRouter. The result itself usually needs 3-6 revisions on average so the context fills up pretty often
Eventually I got Claude Max 5x to try for a month. VS Code + Claude Code extension on a ~15k lines codebase, model set to "Default", and effort set to "Max". So far it's been really good: 0-2 revisions on average, and most of the time it implements things exactly how I would or better. And, like I said, I can only consume 40-60% of the 5-hour limits no matter how hard I try
Granted, I'm not forcing it to use Opus like OP (nor do I use complicated skills or launch multiple tasks at the same time), but I feel like they really nailed the right balance of when to use which model and how to pass context between the them. Or at least enough that I haven't felt the need to force it to use Opus all the time
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#88Ever since this change they announced:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s4idaq/update_on...
It’s been unusable for me as my daily coding agent. I run out of credits in the pro account in an hour or so. Before that I had never reached the session limit. Switched back to Junie with Gemini/chatgpt.
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#89Besides some of the obvious hacks to reduce token usage, properly indexed code bases (think IntelliJ) reduce token usage significantly (30%-50%, while keeping or exceeding result quality compared with baseline) as shown with https://github.com/ory/lumen
Anthropic is not incentivized to reduce token use, only to increase it, which is what we are seeing with Opus 4.6 and now they are putting the screws on
Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage
#90How good are local LLMs at coding these days? Does anyone have any recommendations for how to get this setup? What would the minimum spend be for usable hardware?
I am getting bored of having to plan my weekends around quota limit reset times...