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MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

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Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#11
In addition to this conversation already having been started at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47735348 yesterday, MiniMax M2.7 is not open source. The open weights have been released, which is definitely good and follows some of the spirit of open source, but isn't the same thing.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#12
Absolutely not "open source" - here's the license: https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M2.7/blob/main/LICE...

> Non-commercial use permitted based on MIT-style terms; commercial use requires prior written authorization.

And calling the non-commercial usage "MIT-style terms" is a stretch - they come with a bunch of extra restrictions about prohibited uses.

It's open weights, not open source.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#13
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a joke, but you’re right I can like open source and not want to self host

I think this is the majority view.

If rumours OpenAI are doing 70% margins on inference and Anthropic doing 30% margins, then open weights models hosted on clouds happy with 10% margins increase competition and decrease cost. I’m game, like most. Much easier compliance with data sovereign concerns too.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#14
In my experience, even the MiniMax M2.5 is a very capable model with decent capabilities and with some hand holding, can do good investigation into an issue deep down multiple layers of a software stack given you keep asking right questions.

I am pretty sure MiniMax M2.7 would be much better.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#15
post #4

GGUFs are out too, well done Unsloth as usual! https://huggingface.co/unsloth/MiniMax-M2.7-GGUF I've been using M2.7 through the Alibaba coding plan for a bit now, and am quite impressed with it's coding ability, and even more impressed when I see how small it is. Fascinating really, makes me wonder how big the frontier models are.

Are you talking about this: https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/coding-pla...

How does it compare to z.ai GLM?

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#16
What's people's experience of using MiniMax for coding?

I had a really bad time with it. I use (real) Claude Code for work so I know what a good model feels like. MiniMax's token plan is nice but the quality is really far from Claude models.

I needed to constantly "remind" it to get things done. Even for a four sentence prompt in a session that is well below the context window, MiniMax would ignore half of it. This happens all the time. (This is Claude Code + MiniMax API, set up using official instructions)

Basically, if I say get A, B and C done, it will only do A and B. I say, you still need to do C, so it does C but reverts the code for A.

Things that Claude can usually one shot takes 5 iterations with MiniMax.

I ended up switching to Claude to get one of my personal projects done.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#17

Nvidia is providing free API to try Minimax M2.7

I'm wondering if anybody actually manages to use a new Nvidia account.

After logging into my shiny new Nvidia account, I'm presented with a banner saying "contact support to verify your account at help@build.nvidia.com".

I've contacted Nvidia support and haven't heard back. But they did send me a newsletter...

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#18
post #15
post #4

GGUFs are out too, well done Unsloth as usual! https://huggingface.co/unsloth/MiniMax-M2.7-GGUF I've been using M2.7 through the Alibaba coding plan for a bit now, and am quite impressed with it's coding ability, and even more impressed when I see how small it is. Fascinating really, makes me wonder how big the frontier models are.

Are you talking about this: https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/coding-pla... How does it compare to z.ai GLM?

I am!

GLM-5 (which is all I have access to on it, not the newer GLM-5.1) is slightly better for the coding tasks I'm using them for, in terms of being more accurate slightly more often. Both are very good, and very close to one another in practice

Qwen3.5-plus is also quite excellent: all of these models feel pretty similar to Sonnet 4.5 in practice, though GLM-5 can have "Opus" like reasoning through surprisingly long context chains I've found.

Re: MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source

#19
post #16

What's people's experience of using MiniMax for coding? I had a really bad time with it. I use (real) Claude Code for work so I know what a good model feels like. MiniMax's token plan is nice but the quality is really far from Claude models. I needed to constantly "remind" it to get things done. Even for a four sentence prompt in a session that is well below the context window, MiniMax would ignore half of it. This h…

I love it. It's not quite as good as Sonnet but it's quick, and Minimax 2.5 is like 1/4 the cost of Haiku. With enough of a harness around it, almost any breed of monkey can be coerced into producing excellent typewriter work. GLM 5 and 5.1 are other really competitive options on the price/performance curve
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