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AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

#91

A bit tangent, but is there anyone working on something for “what if AI pans out?” world? I’m not sure how to explain it, but if in the next 5 years a lot of jobs get displaced because of AI, obviously we’ll have big problems. Is there anyone working on analysis, outcomes, strategies and etc.? I think about it a lot, and would be cool to help and contribute.

Many. 80,000 hours has been on the topic for a long while. Agree with the EA crowd or not, they have some thought provoking analyses and a decent newsletter. The future of humanity institute has also been vocal on the topic for some time. Both have a lot of material you could get acquainted with. I know of at least one professional union in my country that is dedicating time and talking to political figures. I'm sure…

EA?

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

#92

A bit tangent, but is there anyone working on something for “what if AI pans out?” world? I’m not sure how to explain it, but if in the next 5 years a lot of jobs get displaced because of AI, obviously we’ll have big problems. Is there anyone working on analysis, outcomes, strategies and etc.? I think about it a lot, and would be cool to help and contribute.

It's not complicated. Just tax the corporations and billionaires a fair share and setup UBI.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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The author seems to have some cognitive dissonance. For a piece saying that you cannot justify violence, there sure seems to be an awful lot of justifying violence in here.

You should probably read up on cognitive dissonance, because this ain't it. Here's what the author actually wrote: > Nothing that Altman could say justifies violence against him. This is an undeniable truth. But unfortunately, violence might still ensue. I hope not, but I guess we are seeing what appears to be the first cases.

And a few paragraphs before:

> And then, and I’m sorry to be so blunt, then it’s die or kill.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

#94

A bit tangent, but is there anyone working on something for “what if AI pans out?” world? I’m not sure how to explain it, but if in the next 5 years a lot of jobs get displaced because of AI, obviously we’ll have big problems. Is there anyone working on analysis, outcomes, strategies and etc.? I think about it a lot, and would be cool to help and contribute.

Many. 80,000 hours has been on the topic for a long while. Agree with the EA crowd or not, they have some thought provoking analyses and a decent newsletter. The future of humanity institute has also been vocal on the topic for some time. Both have a lot of material you could get acquainted with. I know of at least one professional union in my country that is dedicating time and talking to political figures. I'm sure…

Thank you. I’ve seen/read a bunch from the EA crowd, and think pieces from different contributors/labs, but most I’ve seen sounded very hypothetical with “yeah big bad stuff might happen, we don’t have a solution yet”.

And the other side, “pause/ban AI” crowd, also sounded impractical, as the vested interests from governments and private industries will not really let it happen.

Sorry for yapping, it might be that I’m looking at the wrong sources.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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post #84

Humans have been successfully using violence for conflict-resolution for tens of thousands of years. We’ll be fine, it’s not our first rodeo.

> We’ll be fine, it’s not our first rodeo. Because World War I was fine, World War II finer....

Well sure, the conflicts were resolved.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many. 80,000 hours has been on the topic for a long while. Agree with the EA crowd or not, they have some thought provoking analyses and a decent newsletter. The future of humanity institute has also been vocal on the topic for some time. Both have a lot of material you could get acquainted with. I know of at least one professional union in my country that is dedicating time and talking to political figures. I'm sure…

EA?

Effective Altruism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

#97

A bit tangent, but is there anyone working on something for “what if AI pans out?” world? I’m not sure how to explain it, but if in the next 5 years a lot of jobs get displaced because of AI, obviously we’ll have big problems. Is there anyone working on analysis, outcomes, strategies and etc.? I think about it a lot, and would be cool to help and contribute.

It's not complicated. Just tax the corporations and billionaires a fair share and setup UBI.

It is very much so complicated though. The conversations about UBI in the internet has been around since I’ve been online. And since then, there hasn’t been a single large scale test of the system to see if it can be compatible with the current version of capitalism that’s ran in the most of the world.

Even if I support UBI morally, there isn’t even local appetite for it, yet alone global one. And you’ll run into quick questions about inflations, every chart from UBI-lite era of COVID, and so on.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many. 80,000 hours has been on the topic for a long while. Agree with the EA crowd or not, they have some thought provoking analyses and a decent newsletter. The future of humanity institute has also been vocal on the topic for some time. Both have a lot of material you could get acquainted with. I know of at least one professional union in my country that is dedicating time and talking to political figures. I'm sure…

EA?

I believe they meant Effective Altruism, pieces from lesswrong and etc.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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The worst part is that AI's first casualties are jobs that no one really asked to kill. AI is killing writing, music, art, and coding. I've done all of these voluntarily because I simply enjoyed them Meanwhile the parts of my existence that I actually hate - dealing with customer support, handling government forms, dealing with taxes - is far from being automated by AI Look at Suno. Fantastic tool, but where was the…

> dealing with customer support This is one of the first parts LLMs tried to automate. They were literally released in a form of chatbot. Whether it succeeded is another question. > Did the world really wake up one day and concluded that, "wait, we're spending too much on musicians"? I'm not sure about musicians specifically, but in the whole past decade studios have been complaining how costly it is to make AAA game…

I do not know how much I might be an outlier, because when I reach out to technical support the problems are rather difficult, because if they were easy I would solve them myself, without needing the official technical support.

In any case, during perhaps hundreds of interactions with chatbots accumulated during many years, I have never encountered even one when the chatbots were useful, but they were always just difficult to pass obstacles in the way of reaching a human who could actually solve the problem.

To be honest, even in the case when some services still had humans answering the calls, those were never more helpful than the chatbots, but at least when speaking with humans it was much easier to convince them to transfer the call to a competent person, which with chatbots may be completely impossible.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many. 80,000 hours has been on the topic for a long while. Agree with the EA crowd or not, they have some thought provoking analyses and a decent newsletter. The future of humanity institute has also been vocal on the topic for some time. Both have a lot of material you could get acquainted with. I know of at least one professional union in my country that is dedicating time and talking to political figures. I'm sure…

EA?

“Effective altruism”. (Recommended to be researched with a healthy dose of skepticism.)
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