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AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by block_dagger »

pydry wrote: post #36
sigmoid10 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, this is the only way to get enough venture capital to support the compute needs for this kind of technology. Who is going to spend hundreds on billions on a vague idea without regular claims that this will upend the existing economy in six to twelve months and whoever owns it will become unfathomably rich? And despite all the actual developments we have seen going against that idea, investors keep fall…

It's a sad indictment of our society that there is always a shortage of money for medical care, infrastructure, housing, food stamps and space exploration but always a surplus of cash for war and tools that purport to replace the workforce.

War accelerated evolution, it’s why it exists.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by izucken »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #9

The worst part is that AI's first casualties are jobs that no one really asked to kill. AI is killing writing, music, art, and coding. I've done all of these voluntarily because I simply enjoyed them Meanwhile the parts of my existence that I actually hate - dealing with customer support, handling government forms, dealing with taxes - is far from being automated by AI Look at Suno. Fantastic tool, but where was the…

Because elites hate you moreso than downtrodden (they love miserable people in a sense). You are an independent agent with your own ideas, worst case you are completely orthogonal to the hierarchy, and this is something that breaks the intended world order.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by psychoslave »

bluegatty wrote: post #30

'Rogue super intelligence' is the most ridiculous sci-fi nonsense of the AI hype, worse than the pro AI hype. AI will be 'dangerous' because humans will use it irresponsibly, and that's all of the risk. - giving it too much trust, being lazy, improper guards and accidents - leveraging it for negative things (black hats, military targetting) - states and governments using it as instrument of control etc. That's it. St…

Exactly what I tried to articulate yesterday in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47718812#47719503

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by balamatom »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #4
jstanley wrote: post #2

> Every time I hear from Amodei or Altman that I could lose my job, I don’t think “oh, ok, then allow me pay you $20/month so that I can adapt to these uncertain times that have fallen upon my destiny by chance.” I think: “you, for fuck’s sake, you are doing this.” And I consider myself a pretty levelheaded guy, so imagine what not-so-levelheaded people think. Conversely, The Loudest Alarm Is Probably False[0]. If th…

Hah. Yes, and especially as “you, for fuck’s sake, you are doing this” should be, upon reflection, entirely and trivially false. You could remove those two figureheads from the equation and absolutely nothing would change. If violence were ever the answer, I think you'd need to go back in time like the Terminator and whack some academics and Google researchers.

Plural you.

As in, "all of you".

Including its users.

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by mindok »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #40
bluegatty wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be nice if they didn't use the term at all because I don't think they're useful relevant or real. If we thought of all of this as 'stochastic data systems' then our heads would be in the right place as we thought about it just as 'powerful software' that can be used for good or bad purposes, and the negative externalizes will be derived from our use of it, not some inherent property.

On the other hand, "magical new systems that provide almost unlimited capacity for intelligent work" is probably a more functional mental model. Genie can give you 1000 wishes till you reach your session limit.

Not quite 1000 on Codex as of last day or two!

Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by ArchieScrivener »

TMWNN wrote: post #32
ArchieScrivener wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I said killed not died.

Then your point doesn't make sense. As I said, musicians who die early (again, excepting rappers) usually die from self-inflicted causes, not violence from others. What is the connection between this and violent attacks on AI and/or AI people?

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Re: AI Will Be Met with Violence, and Nothing Good Will Come of It

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Post by jollymonATX »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #9

The worst part is that AI's first casualties are jobs that no one really asked to kill. AI is killing writing, music, art, and coding. I've done all of these voluntarily because I simply enjoyed them Meanwhile the parts of my existence that I actually hate - dealing with customer support, handling government forms, dealing with taxes - is far from being automated by AI Look at Suno. Fantastic tool, but where was the…

One of those 4 reliably makes enough to be a target just in how much is spent on it.

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Post by aerhardt »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #9

The worst part is that AI's first casualties are jobs that no one really asked to kill. AI is killing writing, music, art, and coding. I've done all of these voluntarily because I simply enjoyed them Meanwhile the parts of my existence that I actually hate - dealing with customer support, handling government forms, dealing with taxes - is far from being automated by AI Look at Suno. Fantastic tool, but where was the…

AI cannot write for shit, it’s not even a fraction of a millimeter of the way there compared to the production of Thomas Mann or Dostoevski or Cervantes.

The fact that people are using it to flood the world with slop is a hyperscaled continuation of the overabundance and discovery problems we already had, but that doesn’t mean that writing is dead or dying.

The technology simply doesn’t have the capabilities right now, and even if it develops them, what will be put to the test is whether literature is about the artifact or the connection between the author and other humans.

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