The basic premise, try to be lean, is a good one. The implementation will clearly be debated with everyone having their own opinion on it but the core point is sound. I'd argue a different version of this though: keeping things lean forces simplicity and focus which is incredibly important early on. I have stepped into several startups and seen a mess of old/broken/I don't know what it does so leave it/etc etc. All of that, beyond the cost, slows you down because of the complexity. Regular gardening of your tech stack matters and has a lot of benefits.
I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
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#92I decided to look at their website halfway through the post,
This is really what 10k mrr can get you? A badly designed AI slop website that isn't even mobile correctly compatible. The logo is white background on black website like a university project.
I can't believe that people are willingly spending money on this.
Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
#93> I use Linode or DigitalOcean. Pay no more than $5 to $10 a month. 1GB of RAM sounds terrifying to modern web developers, but it is plenty if you know what you are doing.
If you get one dedicated server for multiple separate projects, you can still keep the costs down but relax those constraints.
For example, look at the Hetzner server auction: https://www.hetzner.com/sb/
I pay about 40 EUR a month for this:
Disk: 736G / 7.3T (11%)
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 @ 8x 4.2GHz [42.0°C]
RAM: 18004MiB / 64088MiB
You could have 15 VMs each with 4 GB of RAM and it would still come out to around 2.66 EUR per month per VM. It's just way more cost efficient at any sort of scale (number of projects) when compared to regular VPSes, and as long as you don't put any trash on it, Proxmox itself is fairly stable, being a single point of failure aside.
Of course, with refurbished gear you'd want backups, but you really need those anyways.
Aside from that, Hetzner and Contabo (opinions vary about that one though) are going to be more affordable even when it comes to regular VPS hosting. I think Scaleway also had those small Stardust instances if you want something really cheap, but they go out of stock pretty quickly as well.
Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just curious but is it the case that you signed up here 16 years ago and you didn't know what MRR means?
Haha ^^'. Honestly, yes. I'm on HN for tech content, I don't really care about startups and the business side of things, even though sometimes there are interesting reads on this side as well. Also, it may very well be the case that I rediscover the meaning of MRR for the second or third time in sixteen years :).
I'm jealous of you, like seriously, you somehow haven't worked at a company where a C suite says MRR like every 5th sentence in meeting.
Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
#95There are zero reasons to limit yourself to 1GB of RAM. By paying $20 instead of $5 you can get at least 8gb of RAM. You can use it for caches or a database that supports concurrent writes. The $15 difference won’t make any financial difference if you are trying to run a small business. Thinking about on how to fit everything on a $5 VPS does not help your business.
NVME read latency is around 100usec, a SQLite3 database in the low terabytes needs somewhere between 3-5 random IOs per point lookup, so you're talking worst case for an already meaningful amount of data about 0.5ms per cold lookup. Say your app is complex and makes 10 of these per request, 5 ms. That leaves you serving 200 requests/sec before ever needing any kind of cache.
That's 17 million hits per day in about 3.9 MiB/sec sustained disk IO, before factoring in the parallelism that almost any bargain bucket NVME drive already offers (allowing you to at least 4x these numbers). But already you're talking about quadrupling the infrastructure spend before serving a single request, which is the entire point of the article.
Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just curious but is it the case that you signed up here 16 years ago and you didn't know what MRR means?
Obviously they are lacking the sigma hustle grindset. Its like not having syphilis or cancer, its a good thing.
They haven't also worked at a company where the meetings have MRR said like every 4 seconds. I'm so jealous of them
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
$15 is not exactly zero, is it? If you don't need more than 1GB, why pay anything for more than 1GB? I recall running LAMP stacks on something like 128MB about 20 years ago and not really having problems with memory. Most current website backends are not really much more complicated than they were back then if you don't haul in bloat.
There’s a happy medium and $5 for 1GB RAM just isn’t it.
Not a very strong argument now is it?
Re: I run multiple $10K MRR companies on a $20/month tech stack
#98There are zero reasons to limit yourself to 1GB of RAM. By paying $20 instead of $5 you can get at least 8gb of RAM. You can use it for caches or a database that supports concurrent writes. The $15 difference won’t make any financial difference if you are trying to run a small business. Thinking about on how to fit everything on a $5 VPS does not help your business.
Hetzner, OVH and others offer 4-8gb and 2-4 cores for the same ~5$
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#100This is how every website used to be run before everyone fell four the cloud trap.