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France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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If Japanese internment worried you, you should see Europe's treatment of perceived outsiders [0] and get reallyyyy worried about the ongoing attacks [1] and rhetoric [2]. I would urge extreme caution to anyone in Europe that is at risk. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Jews_from_Spain [1] https://www.ein.org.uk/news/home-office-remove-euss-pre-sett... [2] https://www.ft.com/content/0e29224f-9d06-4315-a8…

> Expulsion of Jews from Spain [...] On 31 March 1492, the Catholic Monarchs of Spain, King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castile, issued the Alhambra Decree, ordering all unconverted Jews to leave their kingdoms and territories by the end of July that year, unless they converted to Christianity Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we (I live in Spain) have come a long way since 1492 (534 years ago)…

Tbf theres a much more recent example of legitimate antisemitism in europe. One around the same time as us interment of japanese people

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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> Astroturfing around this is getting suspicious. It's perfectly possible for people to be passionate about the subject.

I've never met a real human that was passionate about what OS a government worker in some local French commune uses, but it's the hottest topic on HN behind AI

Most of the passion is around being felt exploited my american tech giants and feeling hopeful at seeing large respectable institutions divest from them. Thats legit, not astroturfed

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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It is a step into the right direction. Over time, more and more work is going to be done by AI though. At some point, it will be unthinkably slow and expensive to let humans work on anything. To do *that* locally, you need GPUs and LLMs. How will Europe solve these two?

No-one needs LLMs. AI has no value.

Im skeptical of the AGI claims but this is a bit too far in the toher direction. I use it to turn designs to code all the time

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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It's not completely wrong, it will be understood, but it is ungrammatical and a clear marker that the speaker is not native, similar to getting adjectives in the 'wrong' order ('a big tasty sandwich' sounds more natural to a native speaker than 'a tasty big sandwich', even though the latter makes sense and will be understood). Demonyms for historical neighbours of England have irregular forms when speaking of a parti…

> but it is ungrammatical and a clear marker that the speaker is not native You mean a native speaker might be ungrammatical when using their non-native language? That makes sense to me. > Spain has 'Spaniard'. Even so, you'll hear a ton of native Spanish people saying "As a Spanish person" or "As person from Spain" instead of simply "As a Spaniard", I'm not sure this is very surprising. If anything, that mistake mak…

I'm using the words 'grammatical' and 'ungrammatical' in a linguistic sense; human languages are subtle and fluid, and one doesn't have to be far along the sliding scale between 'doesn't speak a word' and 'well-educated native speaker' to be understood. We speak of 'broken' English when somebody is able to be understood but hasn't fully grasped the language yet; using demonyms incorrectly is a subtler flavor of the same thing. For example 'no come here' -> 'no entering' -> 'no entry'

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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> Expulsion of Jews from Spain [...] On 31 March 1492, the Catholic Monarchs of Spain, King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castile, issued the Alhambra Decree, ordering all unconverted Jews to leave their kingdoms and territories by the end of July that year, unless they converted to Christianity Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we (I live in Spain) have come a long way since 1492 (534 years ago)…

In the UK two decades ago (admittedly not the shortest time) I heard plenty of terrible words and treatment of Pakistanis (which seemed to be used as a good enough bucket for all brown skinned people) and people with red hair. A general disdain for Continentals was a little more subdued. When I was younger France was famous for it's poor treatment of foreigners and non-francophiles. Consider all the politics and ange…

> There are many examples and some of them are not without basis but while things have gotten less stabby-stabby there's some fairly brutal attitudes and behaviors.

Yeah, I won't claim that everyone is treated equally or even fairly in Europe, and some places are absolutely worse than others, in many different ways.

I'd still claim we no longer do "expulsions" of entire ethnoreligious groups anymore in the 21st century though, which was the initial example of why Europe today is terrible.

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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Really proud as a French, I think the government has had some success with moving to something matrix based for the public sector too. https://tchap.numerique.gouv.fr I just hope we end up having more wins at the EU-level, instead of massive fails like GAIA-X...

"As a French" ne veut rien dire en anglais. Il faut rajouter man, person ou quelquechose. Frenchman, French person, French citizen.

Pedantry attracts dislike. One may be right to state something, yet wrong to call it out in public.

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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Okay, and what value would that provide? I'm not interested in games.

The value is that you can have an effective tool to learn something new. I'm not quite sure I understand your question.

I think your wasting your time arguing with him bro

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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It is a step into the right direction. Over time, more and more work is going to be done by AI though. At some point, it will be unthinkably slow and expensive to let humans work on anything. To do *that* locally, you need GPUs and LLMs. How will Europe solve these two?

Not all AI uses LLM, and for some common LLM applications like summarization and translation you can already use CPU only models. The government, or even your average employer, is not going to need a lot of AI video generation or other really GPU intensive tasks. Prompt processing is currently more GPU oriented, but I don't see it as an impossible challenge given, say, 10-15 years.

Also, CPU-only doesn't necessarily mean "on your own computer". You can easily have 100 TB RAM in a couple of racks.

Re: France's government is ditching Windows for Linux, says US tech a strategic risk

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You forgot the part where the countries voluntarily join the organisation. By the way, the commission is subject to a vote of confidence by the parliament, which is directly elected. I'm pretty sure you don't get to directly vote for your cabinet members either, wherever you are.

> You forgot the part where the countries voluntarily join the organisation. It might be worth examining the word “countries” there. Both France and the Netherlands rejected the proposed EU Constitution by referendum in 2005. It was then regurgitated as the Lisbon Treaty (with only superficial changes) in 2007, which was ratified with no public vote. The Irish people initially rejected both the EU-empowering treaties…

> and in the three years that followed everything possible was done to reverse the decision

News to me (as a Brit). Maybe my memory is hazy. Got any detail?

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