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20 years on AWS and never not my job

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Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

#11
I remember many of these events as I was running FreeBSD a lot and subscribed to the mailing lists.

Why on earth would you give this monstrosity of a company so much free labour?

I get that volunteering is fun, but donating your time and competence to a hyper capitalist company is short sighted. I hope there was appropriate compensation, and I'm not including "early access".

Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

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I strongly disagree with the part about IAM roles for EC2

> a useful improvement (especially given the urgency after the Capital One breach) but in my view just a mitigation of one particular exploit path rather than addressing the fundamental problem that credentials were being exposed via an interface which was entirely unsuitable for that purpose.

What alternative interface does the author propose we use to securely exchange credentials? The only other approaches I can come up with involve allowing monkey hands to come into direct contact with secret materials. Outlook, slack and teams cannot possibly be more secure than IMDSv2. I think if you are manually passing around things like PFX files you've already lost the game.

The entire point of the IAM roles is to make everything a matter of policy rather than procedure. The difference here is insane when you play through all of the edges. IAM policy management is significantly easier to lock down than the alternative paths. I can prove to an auditor in 5 minutes that it is mathematically impossible for a member of my team to even see the signing keys we use for certain vendors without triggering alerts to other administrators. I've got KMS signing keys that I cannot delete with my root account because I applied inappropriate policies at creation time. This stuff can be very powerful when used well. Azure has a similar idea that makes accessing things like mssql servers way less messy.

Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

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post #9

The author calls it a 'joke' that Heroes are just unpaid Amazon employees, but reality doesn't become a joke just because it's funny. The asymmetry here is staggering. I find myself holding back private research because I don't want to provide free R&D for a value-extraction machine that is already efficient enough. The author was at least dependency-driven in their contribution, but outside that kind of dependency,…

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Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

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post #9

The author calls it a 'joke' that Heroes are just unpaid Amazon employees, but reality doesn't become a joke just because it's funny. The asymmetry here is staggering. I find myself holding back private research because I don't want to provide free R&D for a value-extraction machine that is already efficient enough. The author was at least dependency-driven in their contribution, but outside that kind of dependency,…

I'm "lucky" to not be smart enough or important enough to think about this. Regardless, i wholeheartedly agree -- at this point, anything i personally could release publicly, will either be fully open source, or completely private. And I'm only choosing open source if I'm relatively sure it's not gonna make some asshole tons of money.

Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

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> In April 2024 I confided in an Amazonian that I was "not really doing a good job of owning FreeBSD/EC2 right now" and asked if he could find some funding to support my work, on the theory that at a certain point time and dollars are fungible

>I received sponsorship from Amazon via GitHub Sponsors for 10 hours per week for a year

For whatever reason, I remember being shocked that you were only charging $300/hr [1] which was what a mere L6 google engineer would make salaried. I hope they are paying you more nowadays

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30188512

Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

#19

He gave them so much free labor

It was a different time when software was seen as something that was built together and everyone was interested in learning the best from one another.

No, it was really not. His tale is from mid-2000s, not from mid-1980s.

In mid 2000s these companies were already operating in the billions and their engineers were already well compensated, and it was known.

Hell, "Cracking the Coding Interview" came out in 2008. Getting a job at those companies at the time was already something coveted because of how well they paid.

Re: 20 years on AWS and never not my job

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post #18

> In April 2024 I confided in an Amazonian that I was "not really doing a good job of owning FreeBSD/EC2 right now" and asked if he could find some funding to support my work, on the theory that at a certain point time and dollars are fungible >I received sponsorship from Amazon via GitHub Sponsors for 10 hours per week for a year For whatever reason, I remember being shocked that you were only charging $300/hr [1] w…

American hourly rates in IT are truly nuts. I wonder if the value-add to hiring American is really worth it, in German-speaking EU you'd get real top-notch engineering for 120€/h. Even less further eastwards.
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