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Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by doctorwho42 »

jatora wrote: post #410
DoctorOetker wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this belief grounded on some kind of derivation, or just a prima facie belief? If it is grounded on a logical derivation, where can one find such a derivation, and inspect its premises?

Recursive self improvement - once you attain artificial superintelligent SWE of a general, adaptable variety that can scale up to millions of researchers overnight (a given, with LLM's and scaffolding alone) - will rapidly iterate on new architectures which will more rapidly iterate on new architectures, etc.

And what's to say that it doesn't iterate itself to a local max, and then stop...

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Post by throwaway78297 »

noduerme wrote: post #390
Tyrubias wrote: post #103

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>> Yeah, the words and narratives that Sam Altman promoted caused so much fear and uncertainty and anger that someone thought their only option was to attempt a horrific crime. The problem with this inversion of your first statement (that violence is not the answer), which everyone justifying violence in this thread seems to forget, is that there is always someone who feels this way about anything . The words and nar…

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Post by snek_case »

Chance-Device wrote: post #357

Just take a second to consider this: if HN, probably one of the less reactionary places on the internet, and one of the most capitalist-friendly, is this angry at this point , before the mass job losses even start, what in the name of God do you think the general public is going to be like when they’ve been going on for years? If nothing else there’s a serious self-preservation incentive for AI CEOs to sort something…

Maybe HN is particularly upset because they feel targeted, given that overpaid tech executives have been giddily making the claim that programming jobs will disappear any minute now. What makes it even worse is that it's very obvious that said tech executives haven't programmed in over 10 years, if ever, and don't know anything about the technology they are selling. They are putting jobs at risk purely for the sake of personal enrichment.

This is probably combined with a general sense of AI fatigue. The population as a whole is getting tired of "AI slop" and companies trying to shoehorn "AI" into everything. Personally I'm also tired of every startup needing to be an AI startup. As if there was nothing else worth building or investing in. It's sucking the air out of the room.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

CreepGin wrote: post #309
EA-3167 wrote: post #235

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Anthropic in particular does this masterfully, you’d think they’d invented Skynet by the way they hand-wring. As always what matters are actions and evidence, not talk.

When a model can tell funny jokes or write good poetry, that's when I'll be concerned.

No, you'll just say "That's not really very funny," or "That's not very impressive poetry," and nobody will be able to dispute it.

For some time now, at least a year, LLMs have been capable of doing both of these things well enough to fool you.

(Pastebin of my response below, which got nuked for whatever reason: https://pastebin.com/buJBSgiq . Some if not most of them would've fooled me into thinking a human wrote them.)

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #454
taurath wrote: post #276

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Huh? They literally did change the world. The world was one way before ChatGPT, and another way after. It's not even a question of whether we "believe" him. It's a factual statement. Did you quote the wrong thing?

> They literally did change the world.

Yep. Thanks to OpenAI's manipulations, RAM prices are so high that dozens of markets are at risk. Possibly for years.

I could live w/o the changes they've brought.

ref: https://bizety.com/2025/12/28/the-dirty-dram-deal-how-openai...

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Post by timfsu »

username223 wrote: post #360
ghshephard wrote: post #272

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Do any of the open weight models from smaller labs exist if they can't distill from the SoTA models that are throwing billions of dollars of compute into pretraining?

Does it matter? The frontier models stole the whole internet, then the second-level models stole from them… It’s all theft.

The question is - if the SOTA model disappear - do these follow-on models have the ability to improve themselves without distillation?
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