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Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience. But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? Thanks

If you live in the bay area, Microcenter Santa Clara has lots to try.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#82

Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience. But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? Thanks

If you live in the bay area, Microcenter Santa Clara has lots to try.

Central Computer too

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#83

Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience. But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? Thanks

If there isn't a keyboard selection at somewhere like B&H's location on Manhattan's west side, it's unlikely for there to be retail display space for similar anywhere else. Setting aside even 50 square feet of standing height display tables with sample keyboards, as a product, is not cheap in terms of retail display space that could be better used for other high-volume, higher profit margin products.

In an ideal world we could have something along the lines of a ca. 2002 era Fry's Electronics in size and concept of broad selection of products. But you'd need something the size of the largest Costco to have a really full array of every type of electronic gadget/product that's available online, and as we know, Fry's went famously bankrupt...

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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post #76

Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience. But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? Thanks

Yeah, this is a US issue. If you go to Tokyo or Taipei, you will find physical stores in cities with many different kind of mechanical keyboards.

I would love to visit a Tokyo store with mechanical keyboards!

My solution is to buy a mech keyboard from some well respected vendor and try it out. I return the vast majority.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a US issue. If you go to Tokyo or Taipei, you will find physical stores in cities with many different kind of mechanical keyboards.

I would love to visit a Tokyo store with mechanical keyboards! My solution is to buy a mech keyboard from some well respected vendor and try it out. I return the vast majority.

ok wow - https://maps.app.goo.gl/6mxrDe8H9e4u1ru38 (in Tokyo)

yeah, that's what'd I want!

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? It's pretty wild the degree to which our lives and economy depend on cheap shipping/trucking. Why have a store when a truck can deliver a 100g trinket for someone three States over.

I mean, you still need a truck to get the item to the store... Delivery is actually more resource-efficient if the store isn't within walking distance of its customers. If instead of making 10 people get in their car and make a round trip to the store/warehouse, you put 10 packages in one vehicle and deliver to everyone in the same neighborhood with one trip, you're looking at an order of 90% less wasted emissions.

> instead of making 10 people get in their car and make a round trip to the store

Tell me you’re in the US without telling me you’re in the US :)

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to visit a Tokyo store with mechanical keyboards! My solution is to buy a mech keyboard from some well respected vendor and try it out. I return the vast majority.

ok wow - https://maps.app.goo.gl/6mxrDe8H9e4u1ru38 (in Tokyo) yeah, that's what'd I want!

The Keyboard Speciality shop you linked is great. It is always surprisingly crowded for such a niche topic. The have good test boards with different key switches.

Note that in the area are quite a few other good shops. Tsukumo has various hardware across many floors and also keyboards, in b1 they also have a razer store. Then there is a shop across the street Galleria or something, more targeting esports, if you are into that.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#88
I never understood why the K6 had aluminum on the sides, but not the back. For the last few years, I had two K6's with different switches I swapped between. When one keyboard's battery went low, I would swap and keep working while charging.

Then, on my newer K6 the battery turned into what reddit affectionately calls a "spicy pillow." The keys warped convex around the bulged battery and equivalently bulged out the back plastic. That's why you can't put metal back there. I quickly brought it to my nearest battery recycling center. I could've just removed the battery, but I also enjoy having my face in one piece

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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post #76

Sort of tangent - but I've always thought there would be physical stores in big cities (like NYC, where I am) where I could try a number of different keyboards and keys since it's such a tactile experience. But there seems to be no stores like this? So... is everyone ordering keys and keyboards, returning them, trying others, etc.? I know there are key switch samplers... is that it? Thanks

Yeah, this is a US issue. If you go to Tokyo or Taipei, you will find physical stores in cities with many different kind of mechanical keyboards.

Where in Taipei? I have been there a few times, so you can be specific.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you still need a truck to get the item to the store... Delivery is actually more resource-efficient if the store isn't within walking distance of its customers. If instead of making 10 people get in their car and make a round trip to the store/warehouse, you put 10 packages in one vehicle and deliver to everyone in the same neighborhood with one trip, you're looking at an order of 90% less wasted emissions.

> instead of making 10 people get in their car and make a round trip to the store Tell me you’re in the US without telling me you’re in the US :)

I'm actually not, but the person I was replying to clearly was given the "three states over" comment. I explicitly specified the statement was conditional on customers not being within walking distance.
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