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Re: Nowhere is safe

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Post by dragonelite »

carlosjobim wrote: post #2

Do drones just appear out of thin air? Or are they made in factories, which as far as I know are "high value fixed civilian infrastructure" - which is vulnerable to attack? If drones become a big enough problem for countries like the US, then drone factories in China will be bombed, I have no doubt about that. The author is quite misguided if he thinks wars can only be fought defensively and never offensively.

You think the US will unleash nuclear holocaust of the human race for some drone parts?

The US will do none of that shit because they wont be able to do it. Given the US is struggling against Iran, couldn't outproduce Russia on the battlefield yet they want to force down China which is an order of magnitude bigger than Russia.

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Post by SoftTalker »

josefritzishere wrote: post #7

I find this vaguely analogous to the proliferation of cheap handguns in America. If drones are a response to asymmetrical power, the solution would be diplomacy. It undermines existing power paradigm, the solution isnn't complicated. Don't pick needless fights with your neighbors and allies. Maybe drones ultimately make better neighbors.

This is the "people are more respectful when everyone is armed" theory.

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Post by brianjlogan »

Hmm...

Interestingly one does not look at the solutions to de-escalate conflict. Despite the proxy wars we've had a relatively peaceful world since WW1/WW2. Please humor me here, I'm not saying the world is horror free.

The emphasis I would hope would also be for improved negotiation tactics, better resource sharing and goal alignment between groups of people.

Why is it that we can dream up more conflict but not peaceful scenarios? Fear is a better attention grabber than the slog of compromise and mutual understanding.

Edit: Fell into the trap of commenting on politics. To an actual curiosity technical position. Has anyone seen any good content on living underground from an energy efficiency point of view?

Re: Nowhere is safe

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Post by carlosjobim »

Legend2440 wrote: post #10
carlosjobim wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're assembled in small buildings, but at least some of the components require sophisticated factories. There are with all certainty weapons in orbit right now, locked on to these crucial factories, ready to fire if needed.

In orbit? Probably not. No country has operational satellites designed to attack ground targets. They would need to launch missiles or send drones. In a total war you absolutely do target factories and industry. But this is easier said than done; they tend to be deep inside enemy territory. And drones are made out of commonplace consumer electronics parts, which could be made in thousands of factories around the worl…

> No country has operational satellites designed to attack ground targets.

Why are you so sure of that? It would be very surprising if at least the United States and Russia didn't have orbital weapons. They've been in sending large stuff to space for decades.

Of course they wouldn't have told you or anybody else who isn't supposed to know.

> In a total war you absolutely do target factories and industry.

And that's what you would do - or threaten to do - long before you start replacing your roads with tunnels as the author is suggesting.

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Post by outside2344 »

Trump has blundered like an idiot into this in Iran ...

... but the upside is that the same dynamics are making it possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia too.

It is a bad time to be an invading force.

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