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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by alfalfasprout »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

It's quite prevalent in tech too-- however, folks tend to be quiet because the "use AI for everything or else" hammer is being used across the industry.

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Post by booleandilemma »

operatingthetan wrote: post #18
rvz wrote: post #7

The problem here is that there are no viable solutions to what happens when AI eventually replaces (yes replaces) tens of millions of humans in white collar roles. All that is being "promised" are vague claims of "abundance". But all I see is this: "AGI" is going to bring abundance of lots of very angry people and UBI to no-one (because it can never work at a large sustainable scale). Some people are starting to real…

I don't think the LLM will produce AGI. Just based on how context windows work, the prompt cycle, etc. LLMs aren't out there thinking about stuff in their spare time. The way they appear to have thoughts and a psyche is purely an illusion.

It doesn't have to produce AGI and it could still ruin the lives of millions of people. Our society isn't ready for that kind of shock. We can't all be instagram influencers.

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Post by risyachka »

foota wrote: post #13
josefritzishere wrote: post #6

My first thought was false flag. Is that too cynical?

I would go for out of touch, not cynical. A lot of people really think AI is the devil.

It will be hard to convince them otherwise when their jobs are replaced with AI, and they are in their late 40s or later - with no time to adjust and to learn new craft.

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Post by throwanem »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Surely there must have been underlying tensions in that marriage.

(I don't feel at all confident in that statement; I am requesting reassurance.)

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Post by boznz »

I guess this is what we get when the media and politicians go all in with their AI populist hate. I don't think I've seen a positive AI headline outside of the tech press, and even then they are pretty thin. Abundance and growing the pie for everyone is also an outcome if this is done right.

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Post by fooqux »

operatingthetan wrote: post #18
rvz wrote: post #7

The problem here is that there are no viable solutions to what happens when AI eventually replaces (yes replaces) tens of millions of humans in white collar roles. All that is being "promised" are vague claims of "abundance". But all I see is this: "AGI" is going to bring abundance of lots of very angry people and UBI to no-one (because it can never work at a large sustainable scale). Some people are starting to real…

I don't think the LLM will produce AGI. Just based on how context windows work, the prompt cycle, etc. LLMs aren't out there thinking about stuff in their spare time. The way they appear to have thoughts and a psyche is purely an illusion.

Something I often think about is how we can barely define what AGI, consciousness, etc are. We may be pretty sure that what we have currently is an illusion, but at which point is the illusion good enough that it no longer matters? Especially with regards to my first question.

It's hard to say it's not X when we can't really define X.

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Post by dirkc »

lbarrow wrote: post #20
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

People talk about AI getting things wrong all the time, why is it "so clearly irrational" to be doubtful of a recipe that might include ingredients that can make you sick?

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

One thing I have idly wondered is how much do the ultra rich protect themselves from theft or kidnapping. Is it just not a real concern?

If Taylor Swift owns a dozen homes, does she have full time security guards at each one? Or just accept some amount of burglary may occur? Do they go everywhere with a guard? Only to public events?

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