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HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

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Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

#21

If it's not actual video material but just talk about what happens in the next episode before it's released, does that really fall under copyright? I can see it being an NDA breach or something but otherwise not

Apparently it was video clips originally posted, but it seems like posting unpublished(?) copy of any type can fall under DMCA, which I guess makes sense.

-> [HBO Lawyer] classifies the infringing content as 'summaries of unpublished, character, setting, and plots of a forthcoming series'

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#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

It was people that didn't like reading or nerdy kids, trying to spoil their interests.

I actually liked reading and I was a nerdy kid. To be clear, I never actively participated in the spoiler stuff, just read about the reactions.

I mean, keep in mind I was fourteen when this happened, and fourteen year old boys are very often assholes and I was sadly not an exception to this.

I guess I just found it funny how much of a reaction people had with it. I liked the Harry Potter books too, I was reading them like every other fourteen year old was, and the plot being spoiled for me didn't really bother me very much, cuz, you know, it's just a book. Some people really got upset.

Again, definitely a dick move to do that, and a dick move for me to find it amusing. Kids are douchebags.

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post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

Finding something funny doesn't necessarily imply you endorse the behavior, believe it to be harmless fun, or even that you don't feel sorry for the victim.

There's entire categories of entertainment media that use "unfortunate things happening to strangers" for comedic effect.

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

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post #20
post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

A mild reminder that humans tend towards inflicting pain on their fellow humans when there are no consequences.

I feel like "pain" is a strong word here. It was a book spoiler. I wasn't laughing at people being punched or hurt or anything.

I acknowledge it's a dick move, but it really is just a spoiler for a book, not exactly life ruining and really shouldn't even be day-ruining. I had the book spoiled for me too and it was just something I moved on from, somehow.

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

#25
post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

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Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

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post #20
post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

A mild reminder that humans tend towards inflicting pain on their fellow humans when there are no consequences.

I think it's extremely hard to argue that kids tend to be emotionally immature and especially vicious in this regard. But considering the GP has admitted that in retrospect they find this action to be a dick move I think it's important not to try and generalize immature behavior to all of humanity.

The question of whether humans are more biased towards social or antisocial behavior[1] is a complex one that philosophy has struggled with for a long time without a clear consensus.

1. Often historically framed as whether humans are inherently good or evil.

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

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post #21

If it's not actual video material but just talk about what happens in the next episode before it's released, does that really fall under copyright? I can see it being an NDA breach or something but otherwise not

Apparently it was video clips originally posted, but it seems like posting unpublished(?) copy of any type can fall under DMCA, which I guess makes sense. -> [HBO Lawyer] classifies the infringing content as 'summaries of unpublished, character, setting, and plots of a forthcoming series'

A summary can't be a matter of copyright. It's probably just the vehicle HBO chose to be able to identify the leaker, because claiming copyright infringement these days is like a superpower, and then use different hammer to go after them.

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

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post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

I don't know if I think it's funny, but I'm probably equally curious about two points. I do think that the journey is as important as the destination. I spoil things for myself all the time, mostly because I'm just always out of step with pop culture. It doesn't really impede my enjoyment of a well made book/game/film if I know some plot beats ahead of time. If you're just in it for the major plot twists, why not just read the wikipedia synopsis?

Also, there's the assumption that it was a real spoiler. It's not immediately verifiable. What if people were yelling "Snape kills Harry"? Why did the people in line assume the guy yelling into the night was being truthful, or that weirdly cropped images of pages weren't just photoshopped?

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

#29
post #14

Reminds me of the Snape Kills Dumbledore spoiler initiative that happened in 2005, where people would drive around bookstores with people yelling in line and spoiling it. Admittedly, kind of a dick move, but I have to admit I did find it kind of funny at the time. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/snape-kills-dumbledore

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

lots of modern comedy revolves around people who should know better being petty little jerks and doing stupid things that actually don't cause any real damage but just makes everybody wonder "why is this idiot such a pathetic asshole?!?"

Re: HBO Obtains DMCA Subpoena to Unmask 'Euphoria' Spoiler Account on X

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe what you found funny at the time? I'm genuinely curious what motivates behavior like this.

It was people that didn't like reading or nerdy kids, trying to spoil their interests.

I doubt that. Someone who doesn't like reading wouldn't think of "spoiling a book" as a prank category that comes to mind or understands it to be a serious upset rather than just slightly annoying. Also, they'd likely feel that going to a bookstore and shouting things relating to a book serious is "cringe" or whatever you want to call it, if they aren't the type to even go to a bookstore in the first place.
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