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US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Maybe it's marketing, but I think it's regrettable that Anthropic paired project Glasswing with Mythos. It really makes it seem like Mythos is the threat, rather than the fact that tons of vulnerabilities have always been ignored throughout the software world. If Glasswing has been started years ago with the goal of applying fixes to AI-found gaps, then this would just be another model to add to that effort. But doin…

A year ago the LLM's weren't good enough to find these security issues. They could have done other stuff. But then again, the big tech companies were already doing other stuff, with bug bounties, fuzzing, rewriting key libraries, and so on. This initiative probably could have started a few months sooner with Opus and similar models, though.

That's not quite true, even a year ago LLMs were finding vulnerabilities, especially when paired with an agent harness and lots of compute. And even before that security researchers have been shouting about systemic fragility.

Mythos certainly represents a big increase in exploitation capability, and we should have anticipated this coming.

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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A year ago the LLM's weren't good enough to find these security issues. They could have done other stuff. But then again, the big tech companies were already doing other stuff, with bug bounties, fuzzing, rewriting key libraries, and so on. This initiative probably could have started a few months sooner with Opus and similar models, though.

That's not quite true, even a year ago LLMs were finding vulnerabilities, especially when paired with an agent harness and lots of compute. And even before that security researchers have been shouting about systemic fragility. Mythos certainly represents a big increase in exploitation capability, and we should have anticipated this coming.

A lot of those bugs were found by seasoned developers and security professionals though. Anthropic claims that Mythos is finding vulns from people who have no security background, who just typed "hey, go find a vulnerability in X", went home for the night, and came back the next morning with a PoC ready. They could definitely be an exaggerating, but if it's true that's a very different threat category which is worth paying attention to.

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A year ago the LLM's weren't good enough to find these security issues. They could have done other stuff. But then again, the big tech companies were already doing other stuff, with bug bounties, fuzzing, rewriting key libraries, and so on. This initiative probably could have started a few months sooner with Opus and similar models, though.

>This initiative probably could have started a few months sooner with Opus and similar models, though. Evidently they tried and even the most recent Opus 4.6 models couldn't find much. Theres been a step change in capabilities here.

No, Opus has found a lot and 112 vulnerabilities were reported to Firefox alone by Opus [0]. But Mythos is uniquely capable of exploiting vulnerabilities, not just finding them.

[0] https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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> A recent leak of Claude’s code prompted the startup to publish a blogpost at the beginning of the month saying that AI models had surpassed “all but the most skilled humans at finding and exploiting software vulnerabilities” [...]

I've seen a bunch of people conflate the Claude Code source-map leak with the Mythos story, though not quite as blatantly as here. I'm confident that they are totally unrelated.

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not quite true, even a year ago LLMs were finding vulnerabilities, especially when paired with an agent harness and lots of compute. And even before that security researchers have been shouting about systemic fragility. Mythos certainly represents a big increase in exploitation capability, and we should have anticipated this coming.

A lot of those bugs were found by seasoned developers and security professionals though. Anthropic claims that Mythos is finding vulns from people who have no security background, who just typed "hey, go find a vulnerability in X", went home for the night, and came back the next morning with a PoC ready. They could definitely be an exaggerating, but if it's true that's a very different threat category which is worth…

Yes, previous models found vulnerabilities but Mythos is uniquely capable of actually exploiting them: https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Maybe it's marketing, but I think it's regrettable that Anthropic paired project Glasswing with Mythos. It really makes it seem like Mythos is the threat, rather than the fact that tons of vulnerabilities have always been ignored throughout the software world. If Glasswing has been started years ago with the goal of applying fixes to AI-found gaps, then this would just be another model to add to that effort. But doin…

Cybersecurity is taken too lightly and it mostly boils down to recklessness of developers, they are just "praying" that no-one act on the issues they already know and it's something we must start talking about. Common recklessness obviously include devs running binaries on their work machine, not using basic isolation (why?), sticky IP addresses that straight-up identify them, even worse, using same browsers to acces…

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Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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> A recent leak of Claude’s code prompted the startup to publish a blogpost at the beginning of the month saying that AI models had surpassed “all but the most skilled humans at finding and exploiting software vulnerabilities” [...] I've seen a bunch of people conflate the Claude Code source-map leak with the Mythos story, though not quite as blatantly as here. I'm confident that they are totally unrelated.

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Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Maybe it's marketing, but I think it's regrettable that Anthropic paired project Glasswing with Mythos. It really makes it seem like Mythos is the threat, rather than the fact that tons of vulnerabilities have always been ignored throughout the software world. If Glasswing has been started years ago with the goal of applying fixes to AI-found gaps, then this would just be another model to add to that effort. But doin…

Cybersecurity is taken too lightly and it mostly boils down to recklessness of developers, they are just "praying" that no-one act on the issues they already know and it's something we must start talking about. Common recklessness obviously include devs running binaries on their work machine, not using basic isolation (why?), sticky IP addresses that straight-up identify them, even worse, using same browsers to acces…

Totally agree, though I'd argue that it's still a software failure if preventing exploits requires every user memorize and follow an onerous list of best practices.

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Maybe it's marketing, but I think it's regrettable that Anthropic paired project Glasswing with Mythos. It really makes it seem like Mythos is the threat, rather than the fact that tons of vulnerabilities have always been ignored throughout the software world. If Glasswing has been started years ago with the goal of applying fixes to AI-found gaps, then this would just be another model to add to that effort. But doin…

A year ago the LLM's weren't good enough to find these security issues. They could have done other stuff. But then again, the big tech companies were already doing other stuff, with bug bounties, fuzzing, rewriting key libraries, and so on. This initiative probably could have started a few months sooner with Opus and similar models, though.

If you run Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.4 in a loop right now (maybe 100 times) against top XXXX repos, I guarantee you that you'll find at the very least, medium vulnerabilities.

Re: US summons bank bosses over cyber risks from Anthropic's latest AI model

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not quite true, even a year ago LLMs were finding vulnerabilities, especially when paired with an agent harness and lots of compute. And even before that security researchers have been shouting about systemic fragility. Mythos certainly represents a big increase in exploitation capability, and we should have anticipated this coming.

A lot of those bugs were found by seasoned developers and security professionals though. Anthropic claims that Mythos is finding vulns from people who have no security background, who just typed "hey, go find a vulnerability in X", went home for the night, and came back the next morning with a PoC ready. They could definitely be an exaggerating, but if it's true that's a very different threat category which is worth…

Previous models have done this just fine. For the last year, whenever a new model has come out I just point it at some of my repos and say something like "scan this entire codebase, look for bugs, overengineering, security flaws etc" and they always find a few useful things. Obviously each new model does this better than the last, though.
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