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Code is run more than read (2023)

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Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by ww520 »

its_ethan wrote: post #12
jollyllama wrote: post #8

And cars are driven more than worked on, but putting the oil filter inaccessibly in the middle of the engine block is still an unforgiveable sin.

What if there's an efficiency in engine design by placing the filter in the middle that leads to a +2mpg improvement for the driver? Or that it fails, on average, 22k miles later into it's life? Not all hard-to-repair-yourself designs are malicious...

If the engine failed due to missing oil change because of the difficulty, the whole car is gone. The waste in cost, material, and environmental impact far outweighs the savings in 2mpg improvement.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by 0x457 »

batisteo wrote: post #20
its_ethan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if there's an efficiency in engine design by placing the filter in the middle that leads to a +2mpg improvement for the driver? Or that it fails, on average, 22k miles later into it's life? Not all hard-to-repair-yourself designs are malicious...

Most cars sold in the US are not aerodynamic so it seems a couple of mpg isn't the focus anyway

I think oil filter located somewhere sinful usually in cars that are aerodynamically sound.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by codemog »

choeger wrote: post #3

Clearly, there is a thing missing here: Regulations. If you have strong regulations on how you can make money, you cannot sustainably have biz antagonize user. So in that case biz just becomes a filter for users that actually are willing (and able) to fund your software. That's a good thing. Obviously, our regulations aren't perfect or even good enough yet. See DRM. See spyware TVs. See "who actually gets to control…

Stupid regulations are why we have an idiotic cookie banner on many websites.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by jjk166 »

choeger wrote: post #3

Clearly, there is a thing missing here: Regulations. If you have strong regulations on how you can make money, you cannot sustainably have biz antagonize user. So in that case biz just becomes a filter for users that actually are willing (and able) to fund your software. That's a good thing. Obviously, our regulations aren't perfect or even good enough yet. See DRM. See spyware TVs. See "who actually gets to control…

> Regulations. If you have strong regulations on how you can make money, you cannot sustainably have biz antagonize user.

If that's what the regulators are optimizing for.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by andsoitis »

jollyllama wrote: post #8

And cars are driven more than worked on, but putting the oil filter inaccessibly in the middle of the engine block is still an unforgiveable sin.

The real issue is that oil filters and gears are really just legacy design. EVs don’t need them.

So, similar with software design, as in other fields, often a problem goes away when you ask a different question.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by carefree-bob »

batisteo wrote: post #20
its_ethan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if there's an efficiency in engine design by placing the filter in the middle that leads to a +2mpg improvement for the driver? Or that it fails, on average, 22k miles later into it's life? Not all hard-to-repair-yourself designs are malicious...

Most cars sold in the US are not aerodynamic so it seems a couple of mpg isn't the focus anyway

The US is filled with bubble cars like everywhere else. There isn't really much difference between cars across the world. Well, China is unique with like 100 automakers all searching for customers, but for most of the world, it's Toyota, VW, Hyundai/Kia, Stellantis, GM, Renault/Nissan, Ford as the top global producers and they sell everywhere. Sure there are some special models in local markets, but those are mostly rebadged versions you can get elsewhere.

Fun Fact: Along with the "Bees are disappearing" scare, which was just measurement error, there has been an "insects are disappearing" scare, due to the fact people's windshields are not covered with bugs like they used to be. However that is because cars have gotten more aerodynamic so fewer insects are hitting the windshield.

Re: Code is run more than read (2023)

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Post by pydry »

dbalatero wrote: post #6
3form wrote: post #4

I like the final conclusion. And sadly I don't feel like anything changed for the better on this topic since 2023. I am afraid that without a major crash or revolution of some sort, user won't matter next to a sufficiently big biz. But time will tell.

I've found the users-first mentality degrading over the years at companies. It's a bit jarring too, since a lot of my early training was pretty user-centric.

This is definitely true. In growth companies there is way more emphasis these days on investor hype over user centricity.

For companies that have a solid competitive moat they have at best gotten lazy about user centricity and at worst actively hostile.

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