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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by psychoslave »

sherburt3 wrote: post #403

I'm sure there's a barely functioning business critical app that runs exclusively on Windows NT in their administration that would beg to differ

It can be ported to React under a single prompt by now, don’t you know?

But certainly we are already at stage where Windows NT can be regenerated on the fly from a prompt anyway, aren’t we?

Otherwise, there is also ReactOS that could be leveraged on for that kind of scenario. I wonder where it would stand by now if all the money that governments around the world spent in Microsoft license would have been invested in it instead.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by mrtksn »

microtonal wrote: post #382
mrtksn wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU freezes/takes over all Apple assets in EU, users with Apple devices get the money in cash upon delivering their devices. If the money isn't enough for the refunds, a finance mechanism can be created that will be settle after the war. The returned devices may be sold to 3rd party markets if Apple isn't cooperating.

EU freezes/takes over all Apple assets in EU Most value/assets are in the US, I don't see how Apple in the EU would have enough interesting assets to refund. If 30% of the 450M inhabitants in the EU have an iPhone and the purchase price was 1000 Euro on average, that would be 135B Euro. I would be surprised if they have a fraction of that in the EU as assets. The primary useful asset I could think of is if the iOS so…

Well how convenient that Apple has about $135B in European accounts(that peaked at 200B)! To avoid taxes US companies tend to keep a lot of money in the markets they sell their products.

You don’t go to war with the association of losing it, obviously the risk will ve priced and I don’t think that the risk will be that big considering that US hasn’t won any wars since WW2. Even if doesn’t cover all the costs, national security and independence doesn’t have to come for free.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by realo »

dleslie wrote: post #410

Canada has been using and developing FOSS for a while now. 0: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-governmen... 1: https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017... 2: https://github.com/canada-ca/ There's still a great deal of Windows usage, but hopefully that will phase out with the passage of time. Canada's bureaucracy moves slowly, at the pace of generational attrition. It won't be unt…

Apparently not everyone got the memo...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/federal-phoenix-pay-sy...

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by mixmastamyk »

WaryByDesign wrote: post #420

It's... an admirable goal, but it pretty much remains to be seen if "France"[1] follows through. Previous attempts to "ditch Windows" have not ended that well. Munich in 2003, the entire Federal German government in 2009, Munich again in 2013, Munich again in 2021, and so on. Most common end-result: back to Windows. Breaking points are typically the lack of an "Office 2016" compatible suite, lack of "Adobe PDF" tooli…

If they only diverted 10% of the budget from MS to solving issues they’d have had a solution a decade or two ago.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by satvikpendem »

bigyabai wrote: post #412
satvikpendem wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't, no (otherwise I wouldn't use Google and their ecosystem either). I also don't see any ads people talk about either, I run ad blockers everywhere so maybe that's why. Vague concerns about privacy are not strong enough reasons for me and most others, based on OS market share, to move away when the concrete reality is we can simply play more games on Windows. The only reason Linux gaming is getting good is beca…

> the concrete reality is we can simply play more games on Windows If you play older games, particularly DOS/Win95 era titles, the concrete reality is that DOSBox and Wine have better compatibility. Even some recent games, eg. Elden Ring , have unfixed stuttering issues on Windows that were fixed on-release in Proton. I'm willing to give Windows it's due because I don't think it's a terrible gaming environment, but i…

I should've said games which came out this century, perhaps I thought that was implied when we're discussing modern anti-cheat. The number of games which work better on Linux over Windows is small.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by justinclift »

sherburt3 wrote: post #403

I'm sure there's a barely functioning business critical app that runs exclusively on Windows NT in their administration that would beg to differ

Sure. But if they can successfully convert 99% of their computers to non-Windows and non-Mac, that'd still be a massive win.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

sherburt3 wrote: post #403

I'm sure there's a barely functioning business critical app that runs exclusively on Windows NT in their administration that would beg to differ

Ideology may actually be the best way to cut off legacy bullshit like this. There's passion-energy, which really gets the creative problem-solving juices flowing.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by Goronmon »

tapia wrote: post #376
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Things run very well out of the box. > a good number of wheels, pedals, joysticks, VR headsets, and other wild and wacky input devices might not work that well or not at all > If a game has an aggressive anticheat, like Battlefield 6 or Valorant, it will not work and you can forget about it > Not sure about VR, but I know it was a bit dire 1-2 years ago The determination of the average Linux user to ignore the faul…

How is Linux fault that some strange peripherals/input devices don't work?

I assume the use of the word "fault" in this context was referring to the "downside" meaning instead of "assign blame" meaning.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by dleslie »

realo wrote: post #423
dleslie wrote: post #410

Canada has been using and developing FOSS for a while now. 0: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-governmen... 1: https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017... 2: https://github.com/canada-ca/ There's still a great deal of Windows usage, but hopefully that will phase out with the passage of time. Canada's bureaucracy moves slowly, at the pace of generational attrition. It won't be unt…

Apparently not everyone got the memo... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/federal-phoenix-pay-sy...

The Phoenix contract predates the more recent efforts to switch to FOSS.

But also, Canada loves to burn money on American suppliers. It's probably why the recent interest in _Buy Canadian_ has the American administration annoyed.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Post by Goronmon »

dryarzeg wrote: post #333
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Things run very well out of the box. > a good number of wheels, pedals, joysticks, VR headsets, and other wild and wacky input devices might not work that well or not at all > If a game has an aggressive anticheat, like Battlefield 6 or Valorant, it will not work and you can forget about it > Not sure about VR, but I know it was a bit dire 1-2 years ago The determination of the average Linux user to ignore the faul…

> to ignore the faults of Linux When someone brings up issues related to Linux themselves, that’s clearly not “ignoring” them. It would be a true case of ignoring them if they simply kept quiet about them. >> If a game has an aggressive anticheat > the faults of Linux And besides, as far as I know (well, maybe I'm missing something?), anti-cheat issues aren’t a fault of Linux itself.

And besides, as far as I know (well, maybe I'm missing something?), anti-cheat issues aren’t a fault of Linux itself.

Issues with anti-cheat aren't Linux's fault (the one to blame), but they are a fault (undesired attribute) of Linux.

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