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Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

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Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#11
> “The last four years have demonstrated that AI agents can acquire the will to survive and that AIs have already learned how to lie.”

Why Harari feels an obligation to comment about everything is of course beyond me, but describing 'AI' as if it takes independent decisions to lie, make moral judgements, etc. demonstrates either that he has zero clue how 'AI' trains itself or that he chooses to mislead the audience.

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#14
Because we don't like uncertainty, and the AI future is uncertain. There are multiple high probability scenarios.

Because we're seeing how its capabilities increase overtime. I find the rate at which I prefer to go to an AI than an UpWorker is scary.

Because we——the people——are not in control of it. We're at the whims of whatever it and the tech bros want (technocracy).

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#15
For regulatory capture, of course. They are not fooling me. There may be other motives, and the more ever-doom-looking crowd can find something in it for themselves as well, but you don't have to dig any deeper if you are looking for an explanation for the perspective of the people actually building it.

The Chinese tech sector popularizing cheap and open source models sure did a number on that narrative, too. Llama models, a while ago, too.

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#16
I feel like this article is more written towards non-techies. A decent amount of programmers have touched coding agents, and know it "kind of" does it's job. It's good enough for some tasks... I cannot be arsed to figure out how to edit a graph in Drupal, so I ask Claude. Claude fixes it, and it's not anymore broken than it already was. Win win.

However, that's where I stop my agent usage. I let ~~Claude~~ GLM do the following: - Fix tedious tasks that cost me more to figure out than I care for - Research something I'm not familiar with, and give me the facts it had found, and even then I end up looking at the source myself

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#17
One thing that strikes me that I never really see anyone discuss is that we've been afraid of conscious computers for a _long_ time. Back in the 50s and before people were quite afraid that we'd build conscious computers. This was long before there was any sense that could actually accomplish the task. I think that similarly to seeing faces in the clouds, we imagine a consciousness where none exists. (eg: a rain god rather than a complex system of physics and chemistry)

Even LLMs, which blow past any normal Turing test methods, are still not conscious. But they certainly _feel_ conscious. They trigger the same intuitions that we rely on for consciousness. You ask yourself "how would I need to frame this question so that Claude would understand it?" You use the same mental hardware that you'd use for consciousness.

So, you have an historical and permanent fear of consciousness in a powerful entity where no consciousness actually exists combined with the fact that we created things which definitely seem conscious. (not to mention that consciousness could genuinely be on its way soon)

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#18
post #3

It does feel like a bizarre moment, where the AI companies are deliberately trying to scare us about their own product in a bid to, I think, show the inevitability of it? Or to sell themselves as the one responsible power to constrain it? It's very odd. "It's going to take all your jobs" is not a great selling point to the everyday public.

They are being honest and you don't want to deal with the implications, so you stretch for conspiracy theories.

The ones at the top are the true believers. Engage with them at that level.

Re: Why do we tell ourselves scary stories about AI?

#19
It's simple. It's because AI is the scariest technology ever made.

Human intelligence has proven itself capable of doing a lot of scary things. And AI research is keen on building ever more capable and more scalable intelligence.

By now, the list of advantages humans still have over machines is both finite and rapidly diminishing. If that doesn't make you uneasy, you're in denial.

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