> Ads do not appear in accounts where someone tells us—or we predict—they are under 18.
Time to make a deal with the kids - i’ll verify you for instagram if you verify me for ChatGPT
Ads in ChatGPT
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Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the humanity as whole I think this 'pay for ads you are just lucky to be here' thing is a distinctly American invention...
Source? It's not at all obvious given that it dates back to at least the days of newspapers.
The newspaper ads looking to capture my escaped ancestors who stole some shoes and ran away from their indenturement for Canada.
https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-...
If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it. No such thing exists for any matter. That is a myth of the internet and people raised on it.
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the same time, they keep hiking the other tiers, and cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college. These need to be factored in as well.
>they keep hiking the other tiers That's why I compared against the 2011 prices. The ad-supported plan is still cheaper. >cracking down on password sharing or kids off at college Doesn't password sharing affect ad supported plans too? It basically has no effect on the comparison because it makes both the ad supported and non ad supported plans cheaper.
The crackdown on "your kid's in a dorm, you can't share the account" is intended to get that kid to buy a second account.
The ad tier is cheap so they can say "well switch to the cheap plan" when someone complains about the hikes.
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is always how it starts, just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too.
>just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too. This doesn't match reality. The "standard with ads" plan is $8.99 today, a dollar more than the ad-free "streaming only" plan launched in 2011. However factoring in inflation, the ad-free plan from 2011 would cost $11.74 today, which means the ad supported plan is still cheaper, even ignoring the price hikes.
Tell "doesn't match reality" to cable television. All channels ended having ads. This is Capitalism in a American society that is looking more of a plutocracy than a democracy.
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Source? It's not at all obvious given that it dates back to at least the days of newspapers.
The newspaper ads looking to capture my escaped ancestors who stole some shoes and ran away from their indenturement for Canada. https://www.masshist.org/beehiveblog/2013/05/advertising-in-... If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it. No such thing exists for any matter. That is a myth of the internet and people raised on it.
>If you are looking for one canonical, authoritative source to declare something absolutely for you, you will never find it
Even if we treat your source as canonical and authoritative, , it doesn't answer the question I was asking. It only answers a slightly different question of "what was the first instance of a paid advertisement in an American newspaper?", which obviously is going to be American.
>But did you know that the first time a paid advertisement appeared in an American newspaper it happened here in Boston?
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#36GoogleFacebook
Twitter
Before: “Advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased toward the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers.”
After: ~75–80%+ of revenue comes from ads
Before: “Facebook is not about making money… it’s about building something cool.”, “We don’t build services to make money; we make money to build better services.”
After: ~97%+ of revenue comes from advertising
Before: “We want to figure out a way to monetize that doesn’t interfere with the user experience.”
After: ~68% of X’s total revenue comes from advertising (~85–90%+ of revenue pre-Musk)
OpenAI
Before: "Something something AGI"
After: "But first, Ads!"
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
>just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too. This doesn't match reality. The "standard with ads" plan is $8.99 today, a dollar more than the ad-free "streaming only" plan launched in 2011. However factoring in inflation, the ad-free plan from 2011 would cost $11.74 today, which means the ad supported plan is still cheaper, even ignoring the price hikes.
By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% Ad supported plan can be a way to justify price hikes. Maybe it does match reality.
>By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50%
You're misunderstanding my comment. I'm not arguing that price hikes haven't occurred. In fact I specifically acknowledged them. I'm only making the narrow argument that despite implications to the contrary, the ad supported plan today is cheaper than the paid plans. In other words the implication that "we're paying more and still have ads" is false.
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#38> We’re beginning to test ads in ChatGPT in the US. Ads may appear for users on the Free and Go plans. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will not have ads. Yet.
This is always how it starts, just like Netflix. Eventually, we will have to pay a lot of money and still have ads too.
Indeed the Black Mirror episode "Common People" is about exactly this nonsense. After a nasty near-fatal accident Mike and Amanda start out paying a substantial monthly fee for a technology which allows Amanda to remain alive, then advertisements (puppeting Amanda!) are introduced despite the fee, the adverts are awful and seem certain to cause Amanda to lose her job - so Mike does humiliating things so he can scrape together enough for a higher tier "Plus" subscription without ads. It doesn't end well for anybody in the story. I mean, except probably some C-suite executive who gets a bonus for the enhanced revenue...
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#39> We’re beginning to test ads in ChatGPT in the US. Ads may appear for users on the Free and Go plans. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will not have ads. Yet.
> Ads do not influence ChatGPT’s answers.
Yet.
Re: Ads in ChatGPT
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% Ad supported plan can be a way to justify price hikes. Maybe it does match reality.
>By your inflation-factoring-logic a fair regular plan should cost less than $12 and ad plan should be about $6. $9 is +50% You're misunderstanding my comment. I'm not arguing that price hikes haven't occurred. In fact I specifically acknowledged them. I'm only making the narrow argument that despite implications to the contrary, the ad supported plan today is cheaper than the paid plans. In other words the implicati…
They didn't say "we're paying more and still have ads". They said they would have to pay a lot to still get ads.
Maybe it's not your reality, you consider $110 a year for netflix with ads as cheap. It might be different for someone else.