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France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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> Linux still doesn't have anywhere near as nice and cohesive as Group Policy, Active Directory etc. Isn't it about time someone developed one? The foundations are there; you can imagine an organization deploying laptops with, say, Ansible, and not giving users root on them. LDAP sort of matches the old capabilities of AD, but not completely. There's even a "SAMBA as fake domain controller" mode. Ironically what it n…

> Isn't it about time someone developed one? Honest question: Why? If you want a Windows-like environment, run Windows. I get this all the time when people ask about a Linux equivalent for something, and aren't really satistied when it doesn't work or look the same. Linux isn't a clone of Windows. Linux comes from an older heritage, and has a unique culture. You are in for a hard time if you want to use Linux like yo…

> If you want a Windows-like environment, run Windows.

One of these questions where we, those doing the discourse, need to pick apart what the word "you" refers to here.

In this context, it is national governments, who have started to fear that there may come a day when they are not allowed to or able to or safe to run Windows. That gives rise to the question, "how can we get a system that minimizes the disruption of migrating away to Windows?"

Ultimately it's not about specifically wanting AD or GP as technologies, either, but the things they enable: seamless single-sign-on across an organization, and management of software security and updates across a fleet of desktops.

(possibly the thing that fills this hole is simply a fleet of consultants which go around explaining things to CIOs!)

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

Is there a performance hit for cs 2 compared to windows with an rtx card? That‘s pretty much the only thing holding me back.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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> It's nuts Windows is still the go-to for anything these days despite everyone knowing what a parasitic Linux still doesn't have anywhere near as nice and cohesive as Group Policy, Active Directory etc. Plus you can pay Microsoft to host it all for you on Azure.

Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open, rather than just giving it all to Microsoft instead?

Most of the cost (to the government) for Windows is "support" (in a very general sense) and that cost isn't disappearing with Linux.

Especially since it is easier to find badly underpaid (and not particularly competent) Windows sysadmins than it is to find badly underpaid Linux admins.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…

> Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The old stalker games run on the X-Ray engine (the mods on a modified OSS version of it). In my experience they've always worked pretty well, though the games are quirky in general. Good hunting stalker.

No wonder it's classified informally as "eurojank".

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Prediction: If USA ends up attacking EU, EU will freeze all the US tech company money and compel them to open their platforms and move all the backend services to EU soil in exchange of unfreezing it and continue operating in a free but regulated market. For example locked communication devices are huge national security risk, so Apple will have their money frozen and given two options: 1) Open up iOS etc, bring all…

Open up iOS etc, bring all the servers to EU. How is that going to work? Apple will still be under the CLOUD Act, so Europe would still be vulnerable. The only solution would be for Apple to fork into two completely separate companies, which is unlikely to happen. Most likely there will initially just be a lot of chaos, because nobody is prepared for this scenario. There will be huge supply issues, COVID will look li…

If Apple can't work out a legal structure that works, it will be forced to refund for the devices then so the consumer can use the money to buy compliant devices probably from Korea or China. EU can work out special deal with the Asian manufacturers as there will be hundreds of millions of people with cash in hand looking to buy a high end smartphone.

Being messy isn't a worse outcome than US invasion. Europeans aren't rooting to live like Americans or go to wars for America and the tech thingy will be a nuisance at most.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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I haven’t seen power point used professionally for over a decade. All google (though I’ve made the odd prezi)

I've worked in academia for years (in computer vision labs) and I can confidently say that PowerPoint is the best tool to prepare research presentations.

Could you go into details about why you think this?

I haven't used PowerPoint in years as I think my needs are pretty simple but I wonder what I'm missing.

I can see that the Microsoft ecosystem gives control on who can view files and provides collaboration and control. Both of which would be useful in the corporate world.

Is there's somethnig other than that or is it just ease of use?

For the most part I see people using MS Office tools because it's what they are familar with. They're familar with it because it's the only thing their IT department will allow them to use.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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> Isn't it about time someone developed one? Honest question: Why? If you want a Windows-like environment, run Windows. I get this all the time when people ask about a Linux equivalent for something, and aren't really satistied when it doesn't work or look the same. Linux isn't a clone of Windows. Linux comes from an older heritage, and has a unique culture. You are in for a hard time if you want to use Linux like yo…

What's the Linux version of AD and group policies? (honestly curious; linux sysadmin at scale not my day job)

The concept does not really exist it is a Windows thing. You could call Puppet or other config managements group policies, but Linux is not a monolith so it is more organic.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Because until literally a year ago, the country that hosted Microsoft was one of France's most trusted allies. It takes time to find a suitable replacement to a global monopoly.

Not really. I mean Trump has amped the rhetoric, but there have been no new laws passed. The privacy threats were always there.

Law is irrelevant under the power of the gun; it was the threat to invade Greenland and the threat to leave NATO which have triggered this.

(people keep saying things like "only Congress has the power to declare war"; that may be technically true, but a war declaration is a piece of paper, and practically the authorization of force is at the personal disposition of the President)

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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I haven’t seen power point used professionally for over a decade. All google (though I’ve made the odd prezi)

Are you just hanging around California startups? I work in big consulting and am inside hundreds of the largest companies in the US, everyone of which is fully Microsoft and only ever seen PowerPoint. I’m in dozens of teams meetings a week across as many organizations and have been in 2 Google meets meeting in the last decade, both of which were California fintech startups.

I've been out of the powerpoint loop myself for almost 20 years too; does it actually have any valuable functionality that you can't get on the free alternatives?
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